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"Talking down to black people...
by Schmutzie
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....telling niggers how to behave."

Thank you Jesse Jackson for being, yet again, a complete fool. I can't understand how this guy was ever seen as a leader in the black community. He's a fucking lamprey and he always has been.

Back in 1999, a kid named Leon Smith from Martin Luther King High School in Chicago was picked in the first round of the NBA draft by the San Antonio Spurs. He was immediately traded to the Dallas Mavericks.

Late in '99, before Leon had played in his first NBA game, he threw a brick through a car window and swallowed about 200 aspirin tablets. He was committed to a psychiatric ward for a few weeks, and after his release, Dallas decided they wanted no part of this troubled kid and let him go.

He went from being a senior in high school, to a multi-millionaire with an entourage of hangers-on, to a mental patient, to an NBA casualty in the course of 6 months. The kid needed help, badly. Coming from a foster home, he had been raised as a ward of the state. He had no real family to rely on. That's when Jesse Jackson stepped in to lend a hand, and some much needed guidance.

No not really. Jesse didn't do shit to help Leon Smith, because there weren't TV cameras following Leon around.

That same fall, down in Decatur a riot erupted in the bleachers of a high school football game. When it was over, 7 black students were given 2 year expulsions for their role in the mayhem. The video of the incident was run here in Chicago, and it was freakin' nasty, looking very much like a soccer riot in Rio.

The incident also made national news, which is why the reverend Jesse Jackson kicked into outrage gear and headed for Decatur. He was outraged at the treatment of these "students" by the school. He blasted the school board, saying it was their obligation to get counseling for these troubled young men so that they didn't go further astray. He organized a rally, and announced that a protest march would follow.

His recent remarks about Barack Obama reminded me of the summer and fall of 1999, and also of Jackson's entire "career" which has essentially consisted of being outraged. He has made a life's work out of protesting on behalf of the black community, and has gotten very rich doing so.

Perhaps now that the black community has seen behind the curtain, and heard what Jesse Jackson really thinks, they'll not only realize that he's a charlatan that looks down on black people, but also that he's a terrible choice of spokespersons for racial causes. Always has been.

From today's Sun-Times (Urq's favorite paper to read on the train)....

"He is personally and professionally devastated," U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) said late Wednesday of his father. Without acknowledging any specific remarks beyond those aired on Fox over the past week, the younger Jackson said he hopes people can "find room in their hearts to forgive him and move on."

Well there's that "move on" thing again. Let's just forgive Jesse and move on to more pressing matters. Sure Jesse Jr., I'll forgive him and move on, as long as Jesse Sr., a crusader against the use of that word, agrees to shut the hell up and just fade away.

Re: "Talking down to black people...
by Woolley
Good post and I agree totally. Can he please take Reverend Al with him?
You're misreading Jackson's comment.
by Archaeopteryx

Whether it's fair of him to do so or not, Jackson was accusing Obama of talking down--of treating black people like "niggers."

I think your whole evaluation of Jackson is off. Maybe he's no longer relevant now. Maybe we've moved on to a new era where race doesn't matter as much. We're on the verge of electing a black man president. But to suggest that Jackson has never been anything but a self-promoting sideshow is wrong. Let me ask you--how much more good does it do for the black community to publicize perceived injustice in front of the cameras than it does to do so in private?

Jackson was not the perfect choice as a black leader--he's made mistakes. But he wasn't the worst thing to happen to the black community, either.

Re: You're misreading Jackson's comment.
by Woolley
His whole career should be judged by his actions in the 60s and 70s when he was relevant and truly leading instead of just being an outraged relic. I think once he started running for President, he became too used to the big bucks and lifestyle of a "black" leader and he lost his way.
Re: You're misreading Jackson's comment.
by Schmutzie

I don't think I'm misreading his comments at all, if this quote is accurate.

"I wanna cut his nuts off. He's talking down to black people ... telling niggers how to behave."

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Jesse Jackson's service over the last 40 years may or may not have been helpful to the black community, in some cases yes, and some no, but in all cases the black community was a secondary "beneficiary", with the intended primary beneficiary always being Jesse Jackson Sr.

I've been listening to this phony preach his hypocrisy for 30 years. It's not just this quote Arch.



The Jackson quote was revealing in more
by Inkberrow

ways than one. Speaking confidentially to another prominent African-American, Jackson provided a glimpse behind the curtain at the idol African-American leaders apparently must pay lip service to as a matter of course in order to avoid a traitor's ignominy. That idol? Victimhood, which triumphs o'er all, so that any direct criticism of African-Americans as African-Americans is axiomatically invalid, insulting, and invidious, and e'er will be.......Because of Slavery.

Jackson may be somewhat nearer the fringe these days, but he still speaks for one of Obama's core constituencies the way Robertson and Falwell did for the Christian right. Yes, Jackson and even Reverend Wright understands Obama must be politic at times, but he had better not forget his ideological and racial roots and obligations. Meanwhile, doughty Victimhood extends its bony arm so that the satirical New Yorker Magazine cover may now be deplored as Offensive, Tasteless, Hateful, and anti-American, using the same language and "self-evident" auspices with which Ward Cleaver and his buddies at Rotary would have deplored The Catcher In The Rye or a flag design on a motorcycle jacket.

Re: "Talking down to black people...
by JackDallas

I think Jesse Jackson is a piece of shit and I enjoy any negative publicity about him.

Jack

Re: JJ's too sensitive
by RonDoe
Obama is 1/2 caucasian and could be talking down to white people depending on one's perspective, though not likely
Re: With regard to this quote...
by Lono
Arch translates it this way:

[Obama's] talking down to black people...telling [those he perceives to be] "niggers" how to behave.

Jackson's implication was that Obama is treating black folks like "niggers" by "talking down to them." I think Jesse's best days are past him, but I don't think he was saying what you think he was saying...I don't think he was using the word niggers in an inclusive way.

But I don't think a row with Jesse is going to hurt Obama much in the black community, and it might help him in parts of the white community, so I don't know that politically this divide is a bad thing.

More totem than idol
by yastfort
An efficient way for kin to deal with harsh realities.
Re: "Talking down to black people...
by theNairobiTrio

Hey JackHumdrum -

How difficult and unpleasant was your toilet-training anyway?

Everything you don't like is a "piece of shit".

Did they beat you for not wanting to grow-up as fast as they wanted?

You can tell us - this is a "sharing" board.

Exactly...
by Archaeopteryx
...Jackson's poked his finger in enough eyes, and appeared as enough of a self-promoter that a lot of folks are going to take a rift between him and Obama as a positive thing.
You must be loving
by biteoftheweek

how so many Obama supporters are able to let their inner "JackDallas" come out since Obama started running?

They hate Hillary, just like you do. They think Jackson is a piece of shit, just like you do.

Who knew you all had so much in common? (I sure as hell did not)

Re: Exactly...
by Schmutzie

Interesting that Bill O'Reilly called the FOX employee who leaked the full quote a "weasel."

I wonder why BillO didn't want the reverend Jackson's full quote made public.

Put it this way, if FOX thought for one second that the reverend was putting words into Obama's mouth, they'd have aired it in full, with a crawl across the bottom of the screen 24/7.

The reason they didn't, in my opinion, is because they think Obama will benefit politically from Jackson's remarks.

It's not like this is Jesse's first brain fart either. Although he's the first guy to scream racism at the drop of a hat, he's also the same guy who called New York "Hymietown."

He's the guy who's been telling black people how to behave for decades, while having a child outside his marriage.

He's the guy who, via PUSH in 1982, boycotted Anheuser Busch because they don't hire enough black people, but once they contributed $500,000 to Jackson, and once Jackson's 2 sons Yusef and Jonathan bought River North Distributorship for $30million, he dropped the boycott.

Same guy who tried via the FCC to block the SBC/Ameritech merger until they dumped $500,000 on Rainbow/Push. That made him happy.

Jesse Jackson is a charlatan.

Re: You must be loving
by dumb_blonde
biteoftheweek:

how so many Obama supporters are able to let their inner "JackDallas" come out since Obama started running?

They hate Hillary, just like you do. They think Jackson is a piece of shit, just like you do.

Who knew you all had so much in common? (I sure as hell did not)

I hate Hillary & I think Jackson is a piece of shit, but I am not an Obama supporter.

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