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Saletan should actually read Singer
by ronald0216

Anyone who is familiar with Peter Singer's writings on animals will see that Saletan isn't. Singer doesn't argue abstractly for "equality" of species, and does NOT argue, as Saletan states, that differences in treatment are justified merely by differences in intelligence. Singer looks at specific attributes different species have, and then reflects on the implications for ethical treatment of those species.

For example, it would not make sense for dogs to have the right to vote. They are vastly different from human beings in their ability to benefit from such a right. On the other hand, it makes sense to have laws banning the torture of dogs. The nervous system and hind and midbrain that we basically share with dogs and other mammals appear to be what give us the capacity to suffer. If dog suffering is qualitatively just as great as human suffering, is causing it any less wrong? It MIGHT be less wrong, based on some difference between dogs and humans, but Singer argues that mere differences in intelligence don't justify a difference in the judgment of the wrongness of torturing dogs and humans. Would it be less wrong to torture a mentally retarded child, or an Alzheimer's patient?

Though a dog can feel fear just like a human, there is good reason to think it can't feel anxiety--if we define anxiety as fear of future situations we can only imagine. Apes may be more like us in this regard. They may be able to worry about the future, in such a way that long confinement is worse for them than it is for dogs. I don't know that that is true, but it is certainly possible. That is what Singer and the group he is associated with appear to be trying to say.

Re: Saletan should actually read Singer
by Saletan Editor

Where did I attribute those views to Singer? I quoted the bone he tossed to activists on his left. The animal rights movement and even the GAP are bigger than he is. Movements and their integration into the mainstream always involve compromises and choices among different belief systems. One guy's belief system, even the most important guy's, doesn't rule. If you want my take on how this process works, see www.bearingright.com.

Re: Saletan should actually read Singer
by Egalitarian

A friend sent me a link yesterday to a film about this very question, Equality For All? Or not really? Etc.

Definitely one of the best, albeit very controversial, films I've ever seen!

(Singer described it at "Hilarious and disturbing, entertains while raising deep questions...")

The film is called COMING SOON and it's streaming for free at the film's website http://www.comingsoon.cz

Highly recommended! But not for the faint of heart... :-)
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