With all this talk on bending, it seems the only thing that is bent is their minds.

People should recognize these problem as a medical condition that should be assessed by pychiatrists.

Being gay is a mental disease and people should take meds to keep it at bay.

We all know Saletan, I mean Satan's agenda on this.

Is that even a real name?

And doctors allow them to have children?

And these children will be even more confused with their sexuality.

These doctors do it for money, they don't care who is asking to have the children and if they are fit parents.

So how did he push the baby out?

Is he going to breastfeed?

Is the gay catholic priest going to baptize the child?

And is the baby going to stay on vacation at neverland ?

Where are all the social workers when we need them?

Wow. Are you ever behind the times, lady.

First of all, while psychiatrists do still diagnose gender identity problems as a mental disease, the treatment is......

....wait for it...

...a sex change. Yep, that is what makes these unhappy and disturbed people into upstanding healthy citizens: being the gender they feel they are.

Being homosexual, however (not the same thing as transsexualism) is NOT a mental disease. Ask a shrink, or look it up yourself. There are no meds that stop a person (or an animal for that matter) from being gay.

I can guess at Saletan's agenda, but I am at a loss about Satan's. Perhaps you could ask him and pass on the info?

Saletan, William Saletan I guess. It is either his real name or a made up pen name. Is Clarinda your real name? I assure you my real name is not Freki.

Freki

Behind the times?

LOL, since when being gay is such a modern thing?

Ask the people of Sodom and Gomorrah.

And why do you support such a thing, freki?

Are you gay too?

I am talking about the welfare of the children, and freaks like that shouldn't have children.

MMmm, mythology, huh?

You mentioned your bible....

I give you Zeus and Ganymede, Achilles and Patroclus, Alexander and Hephaestion.

The last two are historical, but mythology certainly gussied up their epic love affair some.

Freki

PS...how do you explain all the happy gay animals, then?

I think people loving one another is better than the alternative.

I am in a monogamous heterosexual relationship, but I have had my share of torrid homosexual affairs in the past....

*sigh*

The kids are fine. The only reason you object is because you think it's dirty, and that it will somehow rub off on the children...that has been proven over and over not to be true. Plenty of gay people end up with straight kids, and vice versa. I have a good friend, a burly ex-marine, and he is happily married with three kids. His two lesbian moms couldn't be prouder.

Freki

Man, people LOVE to toss that Sodom and Gomorrah business out there as soon as the discussion turns to homosexuality. It's an inappropriate reference. The Christian Bible has nothing to say about what we think of as homosexuality. Maybe you should try reading it instead of just letting someone tell you what is in there. Try this, maybe. link

Oh, and one more thing; before you use the word "abomination", you do realize that in the context of the bible that means "not in accordance with our customs", right?

While I agree with you, cannx0, about the Sodom and Gomorrah story, Leviticus does have some very specific laws about men lying with men as with women.

Also, some laws about eating shrimp, and wearing poly-cotton blends.

I adhere to the modern, Western set of laws that says it's none of my damn business what you do in bed, unless you are forcing someone or there is a child involved.

I might just go home, put on a blended garment, eat some pesto shrimp and watch my two gay cats fellate each other.

Out of spite.

Freki

Anyone that believes in a slut like Mary that allowed god to fuck her and thus cheat on her husband must be pushing Satan's agenda.

Wow, jazz guitar man, guess who is angry at God's punishment?

Your language says a lot about you.

Can you say the same about Mohammed and Allah and the Koran or are you just too sissy and wimpy and pc and liberal and gay and don't have the guts to offend the Muslims?

I dare you!

And by the way, you've been reported for foul language too.

I will bite.

Jehovah is imaginary. Allah is imaginary. Zeus is imaginary. Cthulhu is imaginary (I hope). Satan is imaginary. Siva and Vishnu and Brahma and Kali-Ma and Durga and Ganesha are all imaginary.

Jesus and Buddha and Confucious may have been real people, but chances are they didn't actually say all that shit.

Your god can come get me.

Freki

"Imaginary" what a sissy word,

come on, just talk about Mohammed and Allah and the Koran the same you would the Christian God and prophets.

Don't have the guts?

Are you afraid of freaking Muslims being offended?

And Satan is not so imaginary since you all are doing what he is telling you to do, you people are so ignorant and stupid!

"People should recognize these problem as a medical condition that should be assessed by pychiatrists."

Maybe you should get educated before you open your mouth, because the standard procedure for anyone who wants a sex change is to be assessed by a psychiatrist. Psychiatrists are the ones who recommend a sex change - as a cure for the condition!

Why would I get worked up over something I think is imaginary?

The nice thing about being an atheist, for me at least, is that I look upon all religions from the worship of Mithras to modern Protestantism in the same way.

I think they are silly.

Jazzman was just pushing your buttons by being bigoted against Christians (I assume you claim to be Christian) to show you what it feels like to have someone tell you people you care about (i.e. the "Virgin" Mary) are sexually immoral and worthless.

Obviously he hit a tender spot.

Myself, looking at the whole wearing a dress, living with 12 men, and never knowing the touch of a woman thing, I think Jesus was gay. Look at all the time "the apostle that Jesus loved" spent with his head on Christ's breast.

Hmmm...

Freki