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how morally twisted do you have to be
by kadet

to mobilize hatred against the idea of gay soldier during a time of war? I guess you have to be at a Fred Barnes level of degeneracy. Fortunately, Fred's projection of his views onto a majority of the public is so 1993:

Polling consistently finds that the public supports allowing openly-gay people to serve in the military. In fact, that support is growing even stronger with time.

Well, prominent conservative Republicans keep saying that Jesse Helms was an exemplary figure of their movement. It's hard to argue...
Re: how morally twisted do you have to be
by Reptilicus

Here's a funny shot you can take at those types...

They support Israel in any and all military actions....yet the Israeli Defense Force allows openly gay soldiers.

So..ask them "If it's good enough for Israel, why not us???"

Get a mop to clean up the bits of brain and skull as their heads explode!

Re: how morally twisted do you have to be
by kadet
to see their heads explode will be the best gift to humanity I can ever imagine. I will certainly do that, ask them that question...
I remember years ago when an Air Force Sergeant
by HellFire

sued the Military to be allowed to Retire.

When he was Drafted for Vietnam he said he was Homosexual.... no problem, he still went to Vietnam.

On his last Enlistment before Retirement he was told he could not Reenlist, because he was Homosexual.

The USSC told the AIr Force that they had to take the Sergeant back, and allow him to pull his time for his Retirement.

The USSC was correct of course.

I believe the Military suffers more when Homosexuals serve in secret.... Security Clearances are in jeopardy, anyone with a Security Clearance can be Blackmailed and such.... hiding one thing leads to hiding other things, and so on.

But, one cannot look at a Public Poll when talking about the Military, as the Military is not Civilian.... has nothing to do with the Civilian World.

So, since it is the Military and not Civilian Realm which is affected.... I'd say Poll the Military, in secret of course.

Bad advice from the Right, nothing new
by Horus

While he has to play somewhat to the far Right of the GOP, he can't win solely by doing that and ignoring the middle.

I don't envy McCain trying to dance on THAT tightrope...

Glad to see someone else
by Horus

...see the danger of this:

I believe the Military suffers more when Homosexuals serve in secret.... Security Clearances are in jeopardy, anyone with a Security Clearance can be Blackmailed and such.... hiding one thing leads to hiding other things, and so on.

Since there are likely to be SOME homosexuals in the military under any rules, it simply makes more sense to allow them to serve openly. But the culture would be something of a stumbling block, I'm sure...

There are always going to be Homosexuals in the
by HellFire

Military.

The question is not what the Civilian Realm wants on this issue, but what the Military wants.

Re: There are always going to be Homosexuals in the
by Reptilicus
Hell....if it's okay with the Israelis, why is it not for us?
Well, Openly Homosexual Jews can go to Israel
by HellFire

and serve in the IDF now.

As for the U.S. Military.... well, I do not know just how the Military feels about a change to the current policy.

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