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Man who is really woman gives birth...
by Phullaschytt

Okay this is more than I can take and still stay sane.

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A woman pretends to be a man but gives birth to a child and is still referred to as HE, HIM, HIS and so forth.

Now I don't give a shit what her and her wife want to do with each other, really and truly I don't. I do want to know this though: Why pretend to be a man when you are not ???? Why not just say two lesbians decided to give birth or at least one of them did. I don't understand why the media is forced to use male nouns and pronouns when they obviously don't apply.

It is not accurate to say that Man Gives Birth, it simply defies logic and leaves one to wonder why the deception is necessary.

Re: Man who is really woman gives birth...
by waltz and capsize

I don't know why one might pretend to be a man when really a woman. To me, the psychology of the thing is abstruse.

Thomas Beatie is a man with a uterus and a vagina. No, not really, she is a woman with a beard and amputated breasts. I'm likewise unconcerned with her private life and her self-image. But I'm insulted by the media's conspicuous, though unapologetic misuse of the language.

Here's what I'm reminded of: I've a fairly brilliant 5 year old daughter whose altar ego is CrowGirl. There's a lot to this, i.e., costume, crow sounds, a baby sister side-kick called Egg (hold your plagiaristic pens, boys, I've already copyrighted it.) Thing is, there are days when, if I want to avoid unnecessary difficulties, I have to call her CrowGirl. I have to call her baby sister Egg. (the baby doesn't care, but CrowGirl does.)

So I go along with it. I indulge her little fantasy. (I also hope to profit from it as her adventures are quite engaging.) Sometimes I indulge her so well, she says, "You're only kidding mom, right? I'm really your little J****."

CrowGirl is five years old and knows that language-- what you call things-- how you describe things-- is important.

I know it too. The media wants me to suspend vocabulary and indulge Thomas Beaty's little fantasy.

No.

I've given birth a few times myself. When each baby is born, we check the genitals and make a gender ID. It works every time. The girls have vaginas. The boys penises. It's a fairly simple system. Natural law, and all that. Is Thomas Beaty a woman? Was she born with a vagina? Yes and she's still using it.

Re: Man who is really woman gives birth...
by Smarmalade

The fact of the matter is that controversy sells and is a marketable item.

In journalism, controvery is always a "hot" item, hence the necessaity to say "Man...gives birth"...when in fact the headlines should say "Transgendered female gives birth....", and continue to explain that a female who used transgendering technology to appear to be a man, still gave birth.

Getting hormone treatments and growing a beard and having one's breasts amputated or as in those females who have mastectomies because of cancer, does not make one a man.

It is simply controversy and the extreme desire of marketing journalism rto sell a story that hints of "multiculturalism and diversity"...to make it appear that now, even what was once by nature considered to be a true "gender", can by science and technology and a little bit of hype, change into something that isn't any of what it proclaims itself to be.

Good post!

Like all good schuytt, it certainlys stinks to high heaven and is certainly Phyllofit !!

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