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Take a look at the headline. Since when is McCain clairvoyant? it says he "envisions" the war ending in 2013

Or maybe McCain is the Hope head.

Doesn't getting out of Iraq require more than wishful thinking? If we want to get out, don't we have to be pro-active?

Obama has a plan, McCain doesn't.

Sen. John McCain envisions that by 2013, the Iraq war will be won...

What part of the word "by" don't you understand?

To give all he can to his Mooooslum backers... yes/no?

Where did you read wishful thinking into what he said...OR was that just wishful thinking... OR non-thinking...?

Sorry but your Dem education is on display...Uh-huh!

"Elect me as POTUS in November 2008 and re-elect me in 2012 and I'll end the Iraq war in 2013.".

5 more years! 5 more years! 5 more years!

I agree with you that Obama's so called plan is just talk just like McCain's so called plan is. In other words whatever anyone says about what they will TRY TO DO may not be the same as what they DO TO once in office.

With regards to helping Muslims it is clearly neo-cons that want to help them.

It is neo-cons that wanted to invade Iraq and remove Saddam. Removing Saddam only helped Muslims since the vast majority of people Saddam had attacked \ killed were Muslims!

Then there is the 10 billion a month spend in Iraq. While a lot of that money is stolen by corrupt US companies, the rest is used to help Muslims rebuild Iraq.

He appears prepared to follow the Nixon plan, but Nixon wasn't so bold. He promised to end the war in first term, in six months, if I'm not mistaken, then promised, "peace is at hand" in 1972.

Aren't the ragheads in full support of McCain for POTUS?

If what you say is the whole truth and nothing but the truth... then McCain should have the backing of all those ragtops... huh?

Me thinks you twisted the facts into your version of reality... yes/no?

This is the only point that you can make? I don't even listen to what a bunch of crazy Muslim ragheads have to say since their culture and their religion is crap. Really wake up!

Yes, my version of reality may be twisted. Really. The issues in the middle east are complex and I don't claim to fully understand them.

But just look at the numbers? For example, who is helped by McCain's plan to put permanent bases in Iraq? Muslims. Who is helped by leaving a large number of troop there until 2013? Muslims. Even if one makes the claim we have to do it for the oil, who benefits from the purhasing of their oil? Muslims.

The USA would of been better off 30 years ago in developing other forms of energy so that we don't have to patch things up between Muslims and Jews.

BFD:

"Elect me as POTUS in November 2008 and re-elect me in 2012 and I'll end the Iraq war in 2013.".

5 more years! 5 more years! 5 more years!

Whereas Barry says, "Sixteen more months, if circumstances permit!"