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Obama Was Smart to Join the Mainstream on These Issues
by Planetary Eulogy
FISA is definitely a major flip-flop, but it is certainly the right move to make politically. One of the major strategic errors of the Kerry campaign was its fundamental misreading of the American public's views on Iraq and the War on Terror. The campaign mistakenly assumed that Americans would continue to (reluctantly) support the US presence in Iraq and thus failed to press their advantage on this issue. At the same time, they foolishly assumed that Americans really care about the rights of the accused, and overplayed their hand on issues like Gitmo and Abu Ghraib and ended up looking weak on security issues as a result. But the reality is that Americans want our troops out of Iraq, but don't really care if a few terrorists get waterboarded, nor are they overly concerned about wiretapping. These are issues near and dear to the hearts of upper crust progressives who worried about the School of the Americas when no one else gave a crap, but not to ordinary Americans. Obama is the first prominent Democratic politician to get this right: prosecute the War on Terror with the utmost of vigor and get out of Iraq.
Re: Obama Was Smart to Join the Mainstream on These Issues
by dems rock

so LYING about his positions during the primary was just A okay????

he LIED to get the nomination...plain and simple

i am FURIOUS

after banging hillary over the head for her honesty

what a hypocrite

Please be a little more clear.
by middleview

What was the flip flop? Which part of the fisa bill do you think is inconsistent with Obama's positions?

The fisa bill brings the wire tap program under FISA court control. That was Obama's priority. It gives immunity to the telco's from civil suit. It does not prevent criminal prosecution. It is more important to go after the government officials who have ordered the wiretaps rather than the shareholders of telephone companies.

Re: Please be a little more clear.
by nyecop

Middleview: I believe hell has just frozen over. We have finally found something about Obama we can agree on. I totally agree why he voted for the fisa bill and totally agree that should the wiretap be illegal then the government officials who authorized it should be held responsible, not the owners/shareholders of the phone companies who believed they were following a lawful order.

Mark this one on you calender have a safe day.

Re: Please be a little more clear.
by middleview
Damn....I'm gonna go get a lotto ticket.
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