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Obama Tries and Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own
by GolfMe2ATee
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Obama Tries and Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own House

July 5, 2008 | 01:27 AM (EST)

In an unprecedented attempt to put out a fire in his own house, Senator Barack Obama yesterday issued a response to supporters who had been protesting his position on government surveillance. The release was followed by an 90 minute interchange on MyBarackObama.com between campaign officials and supporters (though as far as I could tell, the campaign officials made no comments themselves but just read the comments being made, leaving it unclear who was actually reading and for how long)..

Unfortunately, there was nothing in Obama's response that addressed the harsh criticism some of his supporters have voiced. I could go into detail on why the statement stinks, but since this is the Internet I don't have to, since I can instead direct you to the excellent point-by-point analysis offered by Glenn Greenwald. My focus here will be the novel political dynamic unleashed by the Obama campaign's social networking site, MyBarackObama.com.

These are uncharted waters we are dealing with here. Yesterday I asked the question whether 18,000 people protesting on the campaign's own web site (out of hundreds of thousands) were a lot or a little. Apparently they were enough to get the attention of the campaign and the candidate.

The comments were a mix of people who were star-struck that Obama had noticed them and written a reply, people who felt any criticism on the site was inappropriate, people who just spouted typical Internet invective at each other, but then an awful lot of extremely informed and thoughtful people who did not back down an inch.

Some defending Obama's position questioned whether the protestors were really from the Obama camp or were Republicans who had logged on to wreak havoc. However, since MyBarackObama.com is a full-fledged social networking site, one can check the profile of each commenter, see how long they have been active on the site, what action groups they are part of, and so on. It appeared that many angry critics were people who had put a lot of time and money into the campaign.

The whole episode raised more questions than it answered. Certainly what is going on here is something new. There are going to be many more controversial issues. A presidential candidate can't always be having to log on to the Internet to defend himself from his own supporters. I am reminded The Obama campaign promised to give its supporters new Internet tools to empower them to make the campaign their own. Now that it as done so, the leadership has to be wondering if it was a good idea. of the musicians who have figured out how to make modest livelihoods marketing their music directly to fans over MySpace, only to discover that doing requires spending hours every day maintaining the sort of direct relationship fans on social networking sites expect.

On the other hand, overall this has to be considered a victory for, and an extension of, democracy. This is a clear-cut case of a candidate promising one thing and doing another. Turns out that in the age of the online campaign there will be a higher price for this time-honored activity.

The folks at Obama HQ better tighten their saddle. They have let the horse out of the barn, and it might be a bumpy ride.

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Things are not so rosy in liberal land, lol

and you say it's cons making the "huff" ?

Re: Obama Tries and Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own
by JesseD
Got any positives about McSame you'd like to share?
Re: Obama Tries and Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own
by jazzguitarman

Well these days one that lives by YouTube, dies by YouTube!

My view is that it all depends on how much most of these 'newbies' (first time voters and new to being this involved in the political process) understand politics and what it takes to win (e.g. a little pandering, a little redefining,).

Re: Obama Tries and Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own
by jazzguitarman

The debate over the Dem platform at the convension will be interesting.

Remember many Obama 'fans' on the so called far left are use to protesting. If some of their core issues are not on the platform because the platform is watered down to appeal to the center, will they stage protest out side of the convention?

e.g. signs saying 'Obama, stay with the agenda that got you here in the first place'! or 'no support for wiretaping' etc...

Unlike moderates members of the Dem party the far left may not go away without a fight and that fight could get ugly since they are use to ugly.

Re: Obama Tries and Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own
by GolfMe2ATee

"newbies" are not the only ones pissed off

Huffington is huge on the blogsophere for example

her message to her readers is clear

that message reaches many

not all newbies

get me those focus group results!
by jazzguitarman

I'm sure Obama's staff is meeting with various focus groups to see if those that are 'pissed off' are really going to do much about it.

Re: get me those focus group results!
by GolfMe2ATee

I think they are planning to do something about it Jazzg.

Re: Obama Tries and Fails to Put Out the FISA Fire in His Own
by Bruja
"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
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