Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by
The Real RML
07/05/2008, 11:14 AM #
1. The fact that he belonged to a Black Liberation Theology church where his pastor said "God Damn America".
###### Shall we base YOUR political position on people you know and not your own Lulu? Your inability to dig deeper than face value on this shows you are ignorant and unable to make any kind of educated statement.This was most likely taken right off a right wing website-you couldnt have come up with this list on your own.
2. The fact that he goes to parties at the American terrorist, Bill Ayers' house. I know if he invited me over I would say hell no.
######## Bill Ayers was fighting against a fascist Richard Nixon government which was actively using the police, the FBI, and the CIA against American citizens. Nixon resigned rather than face what was to be a landslide vote for his impeachment. I would go to a party at Ayers house and thank him for doing what lemmings like you would never do-stand up to evil.
3. The fact that he has let anti-Americans and Islamic extremists like Louis Farrkhan raise money for his campaign. What are they expecting in return.
######## And McCain is taking money from racist and anti-liberal religious hate mongers like John Hagee. What does HE expect in return Lulu?
4. The fact that he says he "doesn't want to appear to be taking sides" and that people think our flag is a "symbol of oppression". If he was on our side he would would WANT to appear to be taking sides.
######## Well Lulu that is called DIPLOMACY (look it up). When you want to be a healer and a uniter in this nation you dont take a side-you listen to BOTH sides. And yes Lulu, since Bush lied to start the war in Iraq, many people in this world do see our flag in a new and not so nice way. Obama wants our flag to stand for something other than torture and oil acquisition.
5. The fact that he doesn't salute our flag (only under duress), doesn't hold his hand on his heart for our national anthem.
######### Again Lulu, blind obedience and forced symbolic gestures are nationalism and fascism-not patriotism. If our government is doing wrong and any American doesnt want to fly a flag or salute it in protest than that is our right as Americans. It is braver to stand in dissent than to merely follow the lies like a sheep.
6. The fact that he felt no compunction about desecrating the Presidential Seal for his own use, which, by the way, is against federal laws.
######## What? Again with the sumbolism thing. Protest is our right as Americans. Just ask our founders. They didnt seem to mind revolting against England.
7. This is just a beginning. Look at some of his speeches and if you pay attention you will hear his little statements about the U.S. that show he practicall spits when he talks about it.
######## He wants to change what is a country stolen by the extreme right Lulu. If he is a little unhappy with what Bush has done to our country that is a sentiment shared by many Americans. If you want to follow a leader blindly and salute and gesticulate for the flag than I suggest you move to North Korea or another place where your idea of patriotism might work better.