Obama has a "problem" with patriotism for a good reason - fro 20y years he was an active member of anti-American cult of rev. Wright. Moreover, he is consistently supported by the most anti-American circles in the world - leftists, islamo-fascists and the like.

For anyone who really thinks that Obama and Wright are just dissenters, and patriots, I propose the following passage to read and respond to.

I am a patriot of Obama. And this means I am not afraid to critisize him. Firstly, I think Obama is an unprincipled corrupt politician, which is a shame cause he should become better. Moreover, I think he is a scumbag, who should be ashamed of himself. I don't think Obama deserves (yet) to become an American president, and he should drastically change himself, get a decent job (I suppose he should start with running a gas station to get some understanding of how economy works). Moreover, if he wants to be a decent man, he must try to emulate Thomas Sowell - and stop befriending horrible folks like Al Sharpton, rev. Wright. I also believe that Obama personally invented AIDS virus to kill homosexuals, and is a paid agent of Hamas. So, until Obama gets better - my position on Obama is simple: GOD DAMN OBAMA.

Well, do you think I am Obama's patriot? And if not, why not? Isn't Obama dissent is the highest form of Obama patriotism?

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You have ONE issye with Obama and that is that one of the ministers in his church was brought up in a USA that allowed blacks to be forced to sit in the back of the bus, to use separate bathrooms and water fountains, and to accept being a second class citizen. The US supported slavery before that and even called blacks 2/3 of a person at one point.

So Gringo, if it had been YOU how would YOU feel about the USA?

Now Gringo do you have any recordings of Obama saying anything like what Wright said?

So my points here are that 1-Wright was justifiably unhappy with a country that considered him second class based on his race and 2-Obama represents a new generation post-civil rights movement. He can better understand what this accomplishment means because he was close to Wright.

So if you want to equate criticism of what America has done wrong with being anti-American, you best join the KKK and fight to return us to the glory days of slavery. I wouldnt be suprised if you would join them happily,l but I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you know what we all know-McCain is Bush's third term. More misery for the economy and more misery for the USA.

Obama represents what is good about America. McCain represents POW (Party of the Old White Men).

As hard as they try, the right wing spin machine cannot pin any of this on Obama himself. The best they can do is guilt by association. Look out, boys. That's a slippery slope.

They do have that oh-so-clever "empty suit" line. And don't forget he's a secret muslim! lol

and ignore Obama's 20 year close connection and participation in a fascist cult. But it's not like honesty means anything to liberals, right?

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and ignore Obama's 20 year close connection and participation in a fascist cult. But it's not like honesty means anything to liberals, right?

Since you don't bother to define exactly what and how this "fascist cult" is then we'll have to simply conclude it is in your imagination.

As far as Liberal honesty is concerned, I am satisfied and quite proud to stand on the record of the last 100 years and allow history to speak in that defense. Though perhaps we've been a bit too naive and giving, as it appears, that what our great country has received in its efforts to help the world is scorn. But those reasons why it would appear we "earned" the scorn are also well documented in history.

But the first amendment allows you to voice your opinion, Gringo, and I still stand and consider it an honor to uphold my oath to protect and defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.

Hey Gringo-you do realize it is a CHURCH not a cult right? I mean would you call all the other people in this nation who go to church members of a cult? You do realize that because it is a church you are free to walk in any time you want and observe what is being said and done right?

Rev Jerimiah Wright knows his people came here as slaves-not for opportunity and religious freedom. He saw the US government segregate its own military and support the south as it forced blacks to attend a different school, use a different bathroom, let KKK terrorists walk scott free, stack juries with "peers" which were all white and condemned blacks to death and worse. "God Damn America" is hardly undeserved from this man. But seeing that history and seeing his own success Obama has the ability to heal what is an understandably painful wound in our country. How is he to understand the wound he has to heal if he isnt exposed to Wright and others like him?

Hey Gringo-you do realize it is a CHURCH not a cult right?

Many cults call themselves churches. It matters not how they call themselves - what matters is what they are. And Wright's "church" is a fascistic cult.

I mean would you call all the other people in this nation who go to church members of a cult?

Depends on which "church" they go. Do you consider the "church of the latter day saints" a cult?

You do realize that because it is a church you are free to walk in any time you want and observe what is being said and done right?

Actually, quite recently Wright's cult stopped free admission of people to their services. Thanks for helping me prove that it's a cult.

Rev Jerimiah Wright knows his people came here as slaves-not for opportunity and religious freedom.

That's a funny one. Firstly, I did not know Wright got his own people. I guess he must be one of those black slave owners. But on a more serious note - can you name one of the living people in America who came here as slaves? No? Well, I guess Wright himself came here as a slave? No? I know, Obama came to America as a slave. Right? Indeed 200 years ago was the last time when black slaves were transported from Africa to America. And 140 years ago, white people died by hundreds of thousands to give them freedom - from other white people. If anything, American whites paid full price for keeping black slaves - which is much more than can be said about the black slave owners in Africa, who sold the blacks in the first place. Lets put things in perspective, shall we?

He saw the US government segregate its own military and support the south as it forced blacks to attend a different school, use a different bathroom, let KKK terrorists walk scott free, stack juries with "peers" which were all white and condemned blacks to death and worse.

He also saw same government stopping this segregation, letting black terrorists walk free - because of juries stacked with peers, saw the government discriminating against whites and asians for the benefit of blacks. I wonder if you paid any attention to what was happening in US in the last, say, 40 years. Did you?

"God Damn America" is hardly undeserved from this man.

In America of 2008? It is hardly undeserved? All right, explain.

But seeing that history and seeing his own success Obama has the ability to heal what is an understandably painful wound in our country.

Obama voluntarily joined the fascist cult, who's leaders do their best to enlarge those wounds, to turn America into Libya. And yet, you believe he wants to heal the wound. On what basis did you conclude this?

How is he to understand the wound he has to heal if he isnt exposed to Wright and others like him?

Obama voluntarily joined Wright's fascist group and stayed in it for 20 years. Does this membership make it more or less likely that Obama supports racial division in this country?

Honestly how hard are you willing to lie to insist Obamas church is a cult? If they closed off free attendence it is because of all the political idiots who would disrupt a service. I doubt liberals would do that to Hagee, but then we RESPECT other religions even if they are of hate mongers like Hagee.

Furthermore gringo YOUR ancestors didnt come here as slaves. Blacks did. You cannot argue otherwise. You cannot sit there and say "well since THEY didnt come here as slaves it doesnt matter"-Yes it does. And furthermore, the civil rights movement took over 20 years to impace and racism is certainly alive and well-and will no doubt become worse because of Obama being a potential president. Watch for all kinds of racism.

As a white guy, I can agree with ONE thing you said and that is that thousands died in the civil war to free the slaves-thus no financial reparations are needed. But that said, it has been less than 50 years since MLK was assassinated. I hardly think you can argue that the war is over for civil rights.

Civil rights is hardly a war which has ended. Even today your hate mongering followers are trying to keep people from marrying because you dont consider them equal to you. How are all men equal when this remains? You continue to insist that there is a rational reason to keep a segment of US citizens separate and different under the law. An argument once used to keep blacks and whites from marrying and to keep blacks segregated from whites.

We have much to overcome Gringo.

Obama is a thousand times more christian than ANYONE who still believes gays cannot marry.

No, I don't think you're "Obama's patriot" whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. I think it's clear you are one very confused and not particularly bright individual though.

"Fascistic???" What a fucking imbecile.