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OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by Lulubelle22
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Obama is so unpatriotic and un-American it is practically tattooed on his forehead.

You can choose to disregard all the signs but true Americans are not buying.

We will be voting for John McCain.

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by DeaH
What are the signs?
Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by Lulubelle22

1. The fact that he belonged to a Black Liberation Theology church where his pastor said "God Damn America".

2. The fact that he goes to parties at the American terrorist, Bill Ayers' house. I know if he invited me over I would say hell no.

3. The fact that he has let anti-Americans and Islamic extremists like Louis Farrkhan raise money for his campaign. What are they expecting in return.

4. The fact that he says he "doesn't want to appear to be taking sides" and that people think our flag is a "symbol of oppression". If he was on our side he would would WANT to appear to be taking sides.

5. The fact that he doesn't salute our flag (only under duress), doesn't hold his hand on his heart for our national anthem.

6. The fact that he felt no compunction about desecrating the Presidential Seal for his own use, which, by the way, is against federal laws.

7. This is just a beginning. Look at some of his speeches and if you pay attention you will hear his little statements about the U.S. that show he practicall spits when he talks about it.

If you don't want to see it, you won't. Die-hard Obama supporters choose not to see what he so blatantly shows.

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by lubbarlubab

Not that there's any reason to repudiate trolls, but for anyone who is curious about the quotation marks in bullet point #4 of Lulubelle22's post, they are totally fabricated.

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Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by TruettCollins
Well, now that you prove you don't know what a true American is, what next.......I would bet you also voted for Bush the 2nd....
Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by The Real RML

I guess Lulu isnt familiar with the 3rd Reich. Her ideas about what is patriotic and what isnt would help her fit well in the Hitler Youth.

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by TruettCollins
And just what rock did you pull that from under......

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by TruettCollins
She disagrees with Obama, so labels him as un-American....
I might disagre with her but I will fight for her right to say
what she wants even if she is wrong. The same with you.....
Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by The Real RML

Well Truett you can fight for her right to be an ignorant ass and that is fine. She can call Obama a Muslim militant close homosexual and satanic goat slayer but it doesnt make it so.

Obama is more American than anyone who thinks like Lulu will ever be.

Rev Jerimiah Wright has the right to see America a little different than us white folk. His history isnt about coming to America for opportunity or religious freedom-his people came here as cargo chained in racks in the hold-and when they were supposedly freed they were forced to live as second class citizens-even when they served in the military they were in a "black unit". Did the US government do anything about it? No. They supported it and they supported segregation in US society. Only when Wright and others fought the war for civil rights-peaceful, unarmed and with white hooded terrorists all around and assasinations of leaders all around did they FINALLY FORCE the US government to truly make them free. And Lulu and her other Hitler Youth say he has no right to say "God Damn America". I think he has EVERY right to say it. And I also think that the next step is to heal the wounds-the very thing Obama wants to do.

Lulu represents ignorance Truett. She represents a belief that criticism of America is a lack of patriotism and that flying flags and shouting slogans and wearing that lapel pin are what patriotism means. She is ignorant. Patriotism is of course acting out of love for your nation and out of a desire to make it better-even when you need to state facts that are inconvenient. As Im sure you know a number of great US leaders have stated that crticism of the president or the country isnt unpatriotic. It takes a lot more bravery to stand against what is wrong in America than to cheer for what is right.

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by The Real RML

1. The fact that he belonged to a Black Liberation Theology church where his pastor said "God Damn America".

###### Shall we base YOUR political position on people you know and not your own Lulu? Your inability to dig deeper than face value on this shows you are ignorant and unable to make any kind of educated statement.This was most likely taken right off a right wing website-you couldnt have come up with this list on your own.

2. The fact that he goes to parties at the American terrorist, Bill Ayers' house. I know if he invited me over I would say hell no.

######## Bill Ayers was fighting against a fascist Richard Nixon government which was actively using the police, the FBI, and the CIA against American citizens. Nixon resigned rather than face what was to be a landslide vote for his impeachment. I would go to a party at Ayers house and thank him for doing what lemmings like you would never do-stand up to evil.

3. The fact that he has let anti-Americans and Islamic extremists like Louis Farrkhan raise money for his campaign. What are they expecting in return.

######## And McCain is taking money from racist and anti-liberal religious hate mongers like John Hagee. What does HE expect in return Lulu?

4. The fact that he says he "doesn't want to appear to be taking sides" and that people think our flag is a "symbol of oppression". If he was on our side he would would WANT to appear to be taking sides.

######## Well Lulu that is called DIPLOMACY (look it up). When you want to be a healer and a uniter in this nation you dont take a side-you listen to BOTH sides. And yes Lulu, since Bush lied to start the war in Iraq, many people in this world do see our flag in a new and not so nice way. Obama wants our flag to stand for something other than torture and oil acquisition.

5. The fact that he doesn't salute our flag (only under duress), doesn't hold his hand on his heart for our national anthem.

######### Again Lulu, blind obedience and forced symbolic gestures are nationalism and fascism-not patriotism. If our government is doing wrong and any American doesnt want to fly a flag or salute it in protest than that is our right as Americans. It is braver to stand in dissent than to merely follow the lies like a sheep.

6. The fact that he felt no compunction about desecrating the Presidential Seal for his own use, which, by the way, is against federal laws.

######## What? Again with the sumbolism thing. Protest is our right as Americans. Just ask our founders. They didnt seem to mind revolting against England.

7. This is just a beginning. Look at some of his speeches and if you pay attention you will hear his little statements about the U.S. that show he practicall spits when he talks about it.

######## He wants to change what is a country stolen by the extreme right Lulu. If he is a little unhappy with what Bush has done to our country that is a sentiment shared by many Americans. If you want to follow a leader blindly and salute and gesticulate for the flag than I suggest you move to North Korea or another place where your idea of patriotism might work better.

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by TruettCollins
Get your panties out of that bunch.....I support Obama, but I also support every Americans right to say what they think, wrong or right. That is one of the reasons this great nation came about.
Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by The Real RML

To a point Truett.

Lies are not free speech-they are libel or worse. Do I support the right of someone to completely mischaracterize somone else by declaring lies to be fact (like the swiftboat veterans).

Free speech is OK by me. Had Lulu said "in my opinion" and checked her facts I might have been a little less concerned.

As it is, she is perpetuating lies and slander and rumour. That isnt free speech so much as spreading lies, slander, and rumour.

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by e1313ruth

It isnt just obama's patriotism that needs questioned.. so does his judgment.. It took all of 10 seconds for me to see that Obama's church was anti christian, anti white and anti american ..by visiting the church website.Obama is not smart enough to be president of USA... and it appears some of the American people are dumber than Obama. i.e. his followers..

I also saw through Obama's so called christianity by his own wrods.. when he said Jesus is not the only way..He is half right.. there is also the broad way that leads to hell and barack i am sure will lead many in that direction..

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by The Real RML

Your links to this church website where a CHURCH is anti Christian?

Another lie from another hater.

Christ himself would have told you that Hagee was wrong and that is one of McCains main spiritual leaders-a man who openly hates just about anyone.

As to being anti white, Obama has more than 70% white people leading hs campaign.

Bush lied to start a war and Obama wants us to stop a war-which one would Jesus tell us to follow? Certainly not he who is willing to lie to start a war.

Re: OBAMA WILL LOSE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PATRIOTISM
by juswaitin

1. Who was Rev Wright quoting, repeating? Find out for yourself...get back to me.

2. In the mid-1990s, Ayers hosted a meet-and-greet to introduce Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois Senate. In 2001, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's campaign. Ayers also served with Obama between December 1999 and December 2002 on the board of the not-for-profit Woods Fund of Chicago. That board met four times a year. Ayers is an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He turned himself in and hurt no one.

President Bill Clinton's pardoned Susan L. Rosenberg, a one-time member of the Weather Underground terrorist group who was charged in the notorious 1981 Brink's robbery in Rockland County that left a guard and two police officers dead. Rosenberg served 16 years in jail after she was found with a companion in New Jersey in 1984 unloading 740 pounds of dynamite and weapons, including a submachine gun, from a car. Clinton had a real feel for the widows.

3. Who knows - probably whatever Hagee is expecting.

4. Total lie.

5. He has led the Pledge numerous times on the floor of the Senate - hand over heart. At Sen Harkins BBQ he did not place his hand over his heart. Of course the others with him were violating another Anthem Code:

Title 36 or the U.S. Code,

During a rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed (A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart; (B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart.

Sen Clinton, Gov Richardson and Obama all stood with their backs to the flag. Filthy stinking traitors. All of them?

6. He did not desecrate the Seal.

7. Hear the hatred...it's all yours. She lost - get over it.

Our pride is based on a very simple premise, summed up in a declaration made over two hundred years ago, "We hold these truths to he self-evident, that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights. That among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

That is the true genius of America, a faith in the simple dreams of its people, the insistence on small miracles. That we can tuck in our children at night and know they are fed and clothed and safe from harm. That we can say what we think, write what we think, without hearing a sudden knock on the door...

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