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Prediction: McCain will get dirty, and soon.
by Nestor

And the so-called "liberal media" will ignore it.

When I say "ignore it," I mean they will continue to allow him to say and do things that they would pillory Obama or Clinton for. If he were held to the same standard, the airwaves would be filled with his flip-flops, misstatements, and out-right lies.

Re: Prediction: Obaminites will blame
by SNAFOO
every loss on something or someone else....never the candidate or the campaign.
he needs to hit back
by macrol
Clark & Move on hit him below the belt every other day . Then BO slaps their hands and says no no children play nice. People are starting to get wise to O's game.
Re: Prediction: McCain will get dirty, and soon.
by Terrortoon
Why not? Obama has been going dirty and playing race since the beginning of his campaign.
Re: Prediction: McCain will get dirty, and soon.
by itspattee
McCain's been dirty for years...starting with the Keating 5.
Oh Great Swami! Tell us more!
by Trebuchet

I read the same article:

After effectively securing the Republican nomination in early February, and officially crossing the delegate threshold in early March, John McCain had plenty of time to shape a general election game plan, decide on a message, and put a campaign infrastructure in place while Democrats continued the longest nominating fight in American history.

In that time, McCain pulled together a cadre of high-priced D.C. lobbyists to get his campaign on track. That is, until Wednesday afternoon, when we learned that Steve Schmidt was replacing Rick Davis as McCain's campaign manager. What was not immediately apparent, however, was that McCain has effectively rebooted his entire campaign operation, abandoned the structure it worked for months to create and given rise to Karl Rove's acolytes.

Senator John McCain's presidential campaign has gone through its second shake-up in a year. Responding to Republican concerns that his candidacy was faltering, Mr. McCain put a veteran of President Bush's 2004 campaign in charge of day-to-day operations, and stepped away from a plan to have the campaign run by 11 regional managers, Mr. McCain's aides said Wednesday.

The elevation of Steve Schmidt -- who worked closely with Karl Rove -- at Mr. McCain's headquarters represented a sharp diminishment of the responsibilities of Rick Davis, who has been Mr. McCain's campaign manager since the last shake-up nearly a year ago.

The shift was approved by Mr. McCain after several of his aides, including Mr. Schmidt, went to him about 10 days ago and warned him that he was in danger of losing the presidential election unless he revamped his campaign operation, two officials close to the campaign said.

And now, to stave off that defeat, McCain has embraced Karl Rove's operation. We already know that the man the president affectionately calls "Turd Blossom" has been advising the McCain campaign behind the scenes, but now the connections will be solidified. Rove's top acolyte is now in charge of McCain's operation, and two more top Rove aides -- Nicolle Wallace and Greg Jenkins -- will help direct the campaign.

It creates an odd dynamic -- McCain is assuring voters he doesn't represent a third Bush term, but he's running on Bush's policy agenda and has Bush's political operation running his campaign.

On an even more practical level, lobbyist Davis, who was managing McCain's team until Wednesday morning, had created an unusual structure in which there were 11 regional campaign managers, who were largely autonomous, as part of a system that had never been tried before. It had taken Davis months to set up the system, but the 11 mini-managers were in place for the general election.

Schmidt is now scrapping Davis' system altogether, and starting the campaign structure over from scratch.

Did McCain and his team really squander a four-month head start? It sure did.

Re: he needs to hit back
by Nestor

macrol:
Clark & Move on hit him below the belt every other day . Then BO slaps their hands and says no no children play nice. People are starting to get wise to O's game.

Two quick questions; what exactly did Gen. Clark say that was inaccurate or 'below the belt?'

And when was the last MoveOn strike 'below the belt?'

Re: Prediction: McCain will get dirty, and soon.
by Nestor

Terrortoon:
Why not? Obama has been going dirty and playing race since the beginning of his campaign.

An obvious lie, for which you have no proof.

Obaminites?
by Trebuchet

What makes you think they are going to lose much of anything?

Well, granted, the half million jobs lost in the last six months will probably be blamed on Obama, but hey.....

It was only a half million jobs....

I think you can stump him
by Trebuchet

by just asking him what Clark said.

Not sure the FAUX News audience even has a good idea of what was said, much less what it meant.

Re: Prediction: McCain will get dirty, and soon.
by Terrortoon

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama said on Friday he expects Republicans to highlight the fact that he is black as part of an effort to make voters afraid of him.

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"It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy," Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. "We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid.

"They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"

He said he was also set for Republicans to say "he's got a feisty wife," in trying to attack his wife Michelle.

"We know the strategy because they've already shown their cards. Ultimately I think the American people recognize that old stuff hasn't moved us forward. That old stuff just divides us," he said.

Obama, born to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya, has cast himself as a candidate who can bridge divides within the country, including those involving race.

It has been rare for him to bring up the topic during his presidential bid. In March he gave a widely praised speech on the subject after receiving criticism over racially charged comments by his longtime pastor.

Obama, who faces Republican John McCain in the November election, would be the first black U.S. president.

Re: Please answer Nestor's question
by wobblies
:-)
Re: Oh Great Swami! Tell us more!
by Nestor

I don't know that we read the same article, but we obviously read similar articles.

Yes, the ramping up of the Rove acolytes signals a new, dirtier phase in McCain's campaign. We can expect dozens of surrogates smearing Obama on every radio and tv news show they can get access to. They will repeat their smears often enough that they will become 'conventional wisdom,' and if Obama counters, they will scream that he's "fighting dirty."

Kerry all over again.

Re: Prediction: McCain will get dirty, and soon.
by Terrortoon
Barack Obama's Campaign Plays the Race Card

Posted Jan 11th 2008 10:46AM by Cenk Uygur
Filed under: Young Turks, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Video, Race Relations

The Obama campaign sent their national co-chair Jesse Jackson, Jr. to tear down Hillary Clinton on MSNBC the other night. He took it too far over the top. His comments on Hurricane Katrina seemed to indicate he was saying Hillary Clinton doesn't care about black people. It's one thing when Kanye West says that about George Bush, it's another when it's Obama's spokesperson saying it about Hillary Clinton. That is out of bounds.

Jackson's appearance on MSNBC and our analysis of why he was wrong to say it is in the video below:




What's even more interesting is what happened after we played this clip on the radio this morning. Calls poured in for nearly two hours -- and the results were frightening. It appeared that people have started to split up in different camps based on their identity. Obama supporters were accusing Hillary of not doing anything to help black folks. Hillary supporters accusing Obama of not being sensitive to gender issues.

Yes, there were definitely exceptions. A black female caller voiced strong support for John Edwards. But overall, the sense I got is that the race issue (and less so the gender issue, but that is also growing) is out of the bag. Once that genie is out of the bottle (to mix my metaphors here), it's hard to put it back in. For the first time, I think Democrats are on the verge of doing serious damage to one another. This thing could get real ugly, real soon.

They have got to reel this back in. It isn't going to help anybody. This negative campaigning definitely turns off voters, especially Democratic voters. It's one thing to attack someone's record (which I am actually in favor of), it's another to do these personal and identity based attacks. The candidates are only hurting themselves in the primaries and their opponent if he or she winds up in the general election.

One last thing, this particular strategy by Obama is short-sighted. Yes, it might help in South Carolina. But you could win that battle and lose the war because you turned off so many other voters by playing the race card in South Carolina. As a guy leaning toward Obama, I hope he reconsiders this terribly misguided strategy.

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Remember that Jujitsu book you had as a kid?
by Trebuchet

It had all those neat illustrations of moves you could use to turn your enemy's strenghts into your strenghts and his weaknesses?

And remember when you picked on the bully to get him to fight you and all your Jujitsu book did for you was get your ass beat?

LooneyToon thinks he has Jujitsu. He tries to turn facts upside down and then you are supposed to prove him wrong but he never accepts any of your evidence.

He gets his ass handed to him on a daily basis and just doesn't realize it.

HEYAH!!!!!

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