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If Congress Followed The Constitution...
by Seasoldier

...and prohibited any sort of EX POST FACTO LAWS would their constituents be more grateful?

Take for instance the Native Lands and Treaties... By altering one of these TREATIES after the fact would that be considered "MAKING EX POST FACTO LAWS?"

Seasoldier/Ex Post Facto Laws

Congress in theory can't pass an "ex post facto" law
by RCH1


since new laws typically can not go into effect until signed by the POTUS - making them effective at some time AFTER the signing. However, if such a law were APPLIED to a prior act, THAT would be ex post facto enforcement.

Regarding treaties - Congress doesn't write treaties. They are negotiated with the Executive branch and executed after approval of the Congress.

Ron

Re: Congress in theory can't pass an "ex post facto" law
by Seasoldier

See President Eisenhower Ex Post Facto sign papers to bring Ohio into the Union in 1953! Hummmmmm

Seasoldier/Last night

Regarding "Treaties," you are telling me that Congress has no part in constructing, contriving, or framing such treaties?

Ever LAW becomes law by the EXECUTIVE BRANCH SIGNING THAT LAW! Who wrote the legislative words--the contract--the asinine presidents?

Example:


""Treaty Power

The case of Missouri v Holland (1920) presented the Court with an opportunity to define the reach of the treaty power. Missouri challenged the federal government's regulation of the hunting of migratory birds, including its setting of seasons, hunting methods, and limits. The regulations were adopted under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, implementing a treating signed by the United States and Great Britain (for Canada). The Court upheld the regulations, even though they were not supported by specific Article I powers of Congress, as a reasonable implication of the President's Article II power to "make treaties." The Court cautioned, however, that the treaty-implementing power could not be used as an excuse for regulating activities that were not "a proper subject of regulation." ""War And Treaty Powers
I've never heard of president legislating an ACT without first the congress running it threw their mill floor.
Re: Congress in theory can't pass an "ex post facto" law
by Seasoldier

So, according to your theory the presidents past are to blame for making and breaking any treaties and the congress is set lose Scott free!

Seasoldier/Conjuring up treaty powers from the CONSTITUTION.

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