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Bush's Other Legacy...
by Thisgal
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Re: Bush's Other Legacy...
by SNAFOO
Couldn't be a Congressional & Clintoon legacy eh....with min. wage and all. Summer jobs not to be found...NAFTA. Yep when in doubt blame Bush.
Oh, I have no doubt
by Trebuchet
Come early March it will all be Obama's fault!
From what I remember...
by Thisgal

the economy was doing pretty well under Clinton in spite of his other failings.

But with your mindset Bush is our savior and lord and can do no wrong.

Re: Bush's Other Legacy...
by Esox88

NAFTA was fine, until Bush decided to accelerate the off shoring, outsourcing and down sizing in 2002.

Bush got the rubber stamping GOP dominated congress to push through the FAST TRACK Act that allwed Bush to send all that HIGH TECH under government supervision overseas.

You see MSN wanted to get cheap labor so it got Bush to send those SUPER COMPUTERS (remember that word?) and all the R&D included right over to China.

A funny aside though...those SUPER COMPUTERS that Bush FAST TRACKED to China are now hacking into our DoD and Energy Grid and Congressinal Leaders computers.

But I digress.

Along with the FAST TRACKING of all the high tech natainal secrets, SUPER COMPUTERS, telecommunications, jet and rocket tech, high end lens grinding...ect, Bush shipped out the jobs with them too.

You know all those high tech jobs that were promised to our kids. When they shipped the dirty manufacturing auto jobs overseas they tried to appease us with high tech jobs for our kids.

Yeah Bush screwed us for big business...and it looks as if he ain't done yet...no sir not by a long shot.

Oil and the Enron Loophole. The Bush corrupation allows the energy speculators to run the energy commodities so the Oil comapnies can make OBSCENE profits at our expense.

Enjoy the world of shit created and support.

Re: Bush's Other Legacy...
by teigan
One of his legacies is that he is the best president on Aids. Bush has done more to fight HIV/AIDS than any president in American history, including Clinton.

Under George Bush the United States spends more than $3 billion a year. Bush's AIDS plan is the largest health initiative ever dedicated to a single disease. By contrast, Clinton's last budget contained less than a billion dollars total for both domestic prevention and Global AIDS. Instead of trying to help people get the medicine they needed, Clinton's Justice Dept. actually sued people and governments worldwide for trying to produce generic antiretrovirals.

Looks as though Republicans outshine Democrats hands down.
Re: Bush's Other Legacy...
by SNAFOO
Clinton and Chinese Missiles
Charles R. Smith
Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2003

Chinese Army Gets U.S. Missile Technology for Money

A newly released document from the U.S. State Department reveals that the most successful Chinese espionage operation in recent history occurred during the Clinton administration.

But i digress

Clinton Enron Nexus
Clinton Administration Procured Credit for Enron, Used CIA as Resource for Enron

As I see the usual suspects in the media trying to manufacture a scandal over Enron involving the Bush administration based solely on association, I have to laugh. Clinton and his administration were intimately involved with Enron and Enron CEO Ken Lay during the Clinton years.

Lay acted as a political ally for Clinton, collaborating with him to try and pass Fast Track (they failed) and on implementation of the Kyoto Protocol. Lay turns out to be an old friend of close Clinton aid Mack McClarty.

The Clinton Commerce Department under Ron Brown accompanied Enron officials on various overseas junkets and trade missions. The Commerce Department was an active partner with Enron in acquiring overseas contracts for Enron, in India and China for example. The Clinton administration was instrumental in lining up credit for Enron in these deals and used CIA resources to assess project risk and analyze the strategies of Enron's competitors.

Here are some citations and quotes. Keep this and shut up all the democrats and leftists screaming about this pseudo scandal.

August 1993. New President Bill Clinton takes his first vacation, a ski weekend to Vail, Colorado.

Who shows up to visit with Clinton? Ken Lay, Enron CEO.

The Houston Chronicle
August 16, 1993, Monday, 2 STAR Edition SECTION: A; Pg. 5

HEADLINE: Clinton takes real vacation
BYLINE: GREG McDONALD; Staff
DATELINE: VAIL, Colorado

(excerpt)

A tired-looking Clinton, off on his first real vacation since becoming president, seemed reluctant Saturday morning to admit to reporters that he was having a good time. He kept mumbling stuff about health care being the next big ticket item on his domestic agenda. But by evening, he'd had such a good time on the local links with Ford, golf legend Jack Nicklaus and Houston's own Ken Lay, chairman of the Enron Corp. and one of George Bush's best pals, that he decided to stay over until today. Clinton, his face sunburned but beaming, told reporters that he and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton and 13-year-old daughter Chelsea were having too good a time to leave Sunday as planned.

1994 - 1995 Clinton Administration "makes a sale" for Enron. Enron and the administration work together to win Enron the contract for a power plant in India.

Clinton uses resources from the CIA to assess risk and analyze the strategy of Enron's British competitor. The administration is instrumental in procuring $400 million in financing from the Export-Import Bank of the United States and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.

The New York Times
February 19, 1995, Sunday, Late Edition - Final SECTION: Section 3; Page 1; Column 2; Business/Financial Desk

HEADLINE: How Washington Inc. Makes a Sale
BYLINE: By DAVID E. SANGER
DATELINE: WASHINGTON

(excerpt)

For 18 months, the Indian power-plant deal has floated near the top of the list of 100 or so big infrastructure projects around the world that the United States Government desperately wants American firms to win. It is the first of eight big power generation projects in India, and if the American consortium could close this one, it would create a precedent likely to give other American companies an advantage in billions of dollars of follow-on deals. In years past, American officials would have offered some modest help, but only as a sideshow to bigger foreign policy concerns, from containing Communist influence in South Asia to keeping India and Pakistan from accelerating their nuclear arms race. But that was another era in American foreign policy, before the Commerce Department built what Jeffrey E. Garten, the undersecretary of commerce for international trade, calls "our economic war room."

From that Washington war room, the negotiators for the Enron Corporation, the lead bidder in the American consortium, have been shadowed and assisted by a startling array of Government agencies. In a carefully-planned assault, the State and Energy Departments pressed the firms' case. The American ambassador to India, Frank G. Wisner, constantly cajoled Indian officials. The Secretary of Energy, Hazel O'Leary, brought in delegations of other executives -- including some last week -- to make the point that more American investment is in the wings if the conditions are right.

To sweeten the pot, the Export-Import Bank of the United States and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation put together $400 million in financing. And working just behind the scenes, as it often does these days, was the Central Intelligence Agency, assessing the risks of the project and scoping out the the competitive strategies of Britain and other countries that want a big chunk of the Indian market.

The big push by Washington Inc. paid off last month when the Indian government awarded the power plant project to the American consortium.

Amazing Other Legacy........................­....
by iwasme

yes its amazing.

with the deficit spending we are running by borrowing for the war with iraq from china we should be getting a very large multiplier in growth back but we are not. wars are totally parasitic that way, black holes that gobble up money with no payback but death. the real question is what will happen if we pull the plug on war and military spending? will there be a collapse into a depression?

Re:Tig & SNAFU...Humiliation
by Esox88

WE are talking about today, right now...the disaster we are in and about to really bury us for along time to come is a direct result of Bush and his Voo-Doo Economics...which is nothing more than a bastardization of deficit spending Conservative poltics.

Now you CONs whom are shamed beyond admitting it may want to switch and bait to another topic, but I ain't biting...and it really does nothing to change the fact that Bush has FUBR the economy of this great country.

Yes I understand it sounded very good coming out of Bush's lips...no taxes, no restricitons, no regulation, no government oversight, All growth, no pain.

But if it sounds to good to be true it usually is. ANd in this case it really was.

Now Bush and the Conservatives have mortaged our lives and sold our soles to the Red Chinese.

We are screwed...now is the time to at least to begin to admit the position we are in.

Re: Re:Tig & SNAFU...Humiliation
by teigan
Its a result of your lame duck congress.
Re: Re:Tig & SNAFU...Humiliation
by Nestor

teigan:
Its a result of your lame duck congress.

Yeah, I'm wishing they hadn't been so lame either... they should have begun impeachment proceedings of both bush and cheney in Jan., 2OO6.

Re: Re:Tig & SNAFU...Humiliation
by esox

Living in denial...it is about right after the last DISASTROUS 7 years of CON-Tard leadership, obfuscation and stonewalling.

And with the GOP Senate breaking the history books on filierbustering...some 75 to date, and expecting to go evenhigher...there will be little doubt in anyone's mind which party was really America's worse nightmare...REPUBLICANT's

Republican's are like parasitic worms that need to be removed before they can do any more damage.

God Save the Republic!

Re: Re:Tig & SNAFU...Humiliation
by teigan
If they wanted to stop the war they should have stopped the funding.
But they didn't have any intention of doing that, they just lied to get votes. You guys are such saps.

But they have managed to screw up the economy pretty good since Jan. 2006.
Re: Re:Tig & SNAFU...Humiliation
by Esox88

Switch and bait ...yet again TIG? That is all the GOP has left you with...shameful.

And this bait is what? Bush's Iraq mistake? LMAO!

You are not only off topic..."It's the Economy Stupid"...you are taking the worst war in the history of the United Sates and misdirecting the fault.

Classic CON-Tard denial and drive by smearing.

Back to the Bush economy.

As of May, 2005, there had been 893,000 jobs created over the first 52 months of the Bush presidency. Which Bush bragged about ad nauseum.

But they failed to mention the caveat that it was a gain that was due solely to the 917,000 jobs created in the government sector that offset the 24,000 jobs lost in the private sector.

The last hike in the debt limit amounted to a grand total of more than $2 trillion during Bush's first term.

These deficits, of the Bush government, rack up year after year and impede economic growth, push taxes on future generations and force the United States to rely on foreign governments and investors like China and Saudia Arabia.

Meanwhile, as the government has to pay more interest on its debt, it has less for US infrastructure of roads-ports-energy grid-fiber optics, less for first responders, less for CDC's rapid contagin disease response, less for education and other programs (FEMA) necessary to keep America from becoming a third world country.

In his first State of the Union address, Bush spoke of his plan to pay off over the next decade the entire $2 trillion debt held by the public at that time.

Bush said, "We owe it to our children and grandchildren to act now." The debt Bush & the rubber stamping GOP congresses gave us (over the last 7 years) is on track to reach the $6.5 trillion mark by 2011.

That is a short 3 years away.


So let me get this straight....
by Trebuchet

You are saying that little george is better at big government spending than Bill Clinton?

Largest health inititiative ever? You mean more money thrown at the problem than ever before?

Was there a bureaucracy that went with all that spending? Did people have to prove that they weren't doing this and weren't doing that before they could get the funding? Were there strings attached to how they could spend the money?

This is an accomplishment? More American Taxpayers money than ever spent on a bureaucracy that has been ineffective in stemming the epidemic?

Gee, should you be bragging about that?

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