Rowan "Neville Chamberlain" Williams decomes redundant:

African Anglicans aiming to usurp UK Archbishop

In a revolutionary move bordering on schismatic, African archbishops unilaterally announced Sunday in Jerusalem that they have taken over the leadership of the Anglican Church from England and the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams.

Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams.
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Kenya, Nigeria, Rwanda, Southern Cone, Uganda and West Africa and, later, the Anglican Church of Tanzania, will form a new Council of Primates purporting to provide new leadership for the Anglican Communion, according to press release published at the end of a seven-day conference held in Jerusalem.

"The uniqueness of the Jerusalem Declaration is that the Africans are sending out a clear message to England saying in essence that this is our church," said Rev. Dr. Arne H. Fjeldstad, Head of Communications for the Global Anglican Future (GAFCON) conference, which ended Sunday.

Fjeldstad said that the importance of Jerusalem was central to GAFCON's message.

"Jerusalem was the natural place for us to go back to our Jewish roots and our Christian heritage. It is a way of reaffirming that we are Bible-believing Christians."

Fjeldstad added that participants had a "holistic spiritual experience" in the Holy Land by visiting sites with profound historical significance.

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Yep. The Anglican Church has been trying hard to be, at least in step with modern thinking if not in front of. But I guess it is a step too for Africa when priest start marrying each other lol. It isn't really funny but it makes me giggle to think of the horror on some pious faces.

It is so sad from our point of view but Africa has find its own way, doesn't it?

But when you think how long it has taken for us too get our shit together! Well some of us!

Here is why!!!

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Same old reason that the Baptist church split - sincere theological differences over just how blatantly hateful the church should be.

Ususally the pro-hate faction is the majority, since that is christianity's big selling point

tiponeill:

Same old reason that the Baptist church split - sincere theological differences over just how blatantly hateful the church should be.

Ususally the pro-hate faction is the majority, since that is christianity's big selling point

Yea, it's probably something to do with following what the Bible says rather than doing whatever you/they want. You know, like the thing about homosexuals deserving of being stoned to death.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

not the core issue. Most mainline Protestant denominations will be splitting in the years to come. The core issue relates to the Bible; its perspecuity (is the meaning plain or not?) and hermeneutics.

Let me give you an analogy. Imagine that a group of biologists embraced Lamarckian genetics instead of Darwinian/Mendelian genetics. Think they'd be welcome at the annual meetings? Think the membership would want them to run their professional organizations?

So, you're saying that the "conservative" wing of the Church has been doing groundbreaking research in homosexuality that renders older models obsolete?

Because that is the analogy that you offered.

>>Yea, it's probably something to do with following what the Bible says rather than doing whatever you/they want.

Actually it is claiming the Bible justifies the hatred that you acually want - just as they had to break off and form the Southern Baptists because the "bible told them" to keep slaves.

>>The core issue relates to the Bible; its perspecuity (is the meaning plain or not?) and hermeneutics.

No - the core issue is gays. They only care what the bible says as an excuse for whatever they want, and "translate" it differently for every generation to fit their wishes.

like the thing about homosexuals deserving of being stoned to death.

Do you desire to stone to death a homosexual? Is this passion to kill a homosexual limited to homosexuals within your church and/or religion, or does it encompass all homosexuals anywhere and everywhere regardless of their religious persuasion or lack thereof?

fortunateson:

like the thing about homosexuals deserving of being stoned to death.

Do you desire to stone to death a homosexual? Is this passion to kill a homosexual limited to homosexuals within your church and/or religion, or does it encompass all homosexuals anywhere and everywhere regardless of their religious persuasion or lack thereof?

Let me see now, just where was it that I said that I wanted to stone anyone? Nope that's illegal.

No, you just said they deserved to be stoned to death.

I am sure the only reason you don't want to do so is the fact that it is illegal.

Th Paine:

No, you just said they deserved to be stoned to death.

I am sure the only reason you don't want to do so is the fact that it is illegal.

No I didn't. Show me were I said that. You and tiponeill are buddies aren't you?

Sure, Tip is one of my many on-line buddies here. Not to say I have not frequently disagreed with him -- mostly regarding tactics, not principles.

You have made your attitude towards homosexuals rather clear over the years I have known you, and your reference to stoning left little doubt about your attitude, even without the benefit of that context.