But many need to read what is written here.

There are times when a person wants something so badly they feel it can be wished into existence. Sure they work hard for their wish and they put in long hours of hard work and many days of sleepless nights to make that wish come true.

Sometimes these folks come onto competition with others who are working just as hard and losing just as much sleep trying to attain the very same dream....When this happens only one of the two groups can attain the achievement of that dream, or at least they both can't have it at the exact same time.

This does not mean that one or the other did not try to make their goal come true, it simply means that one was successful before the other.

The problem begins when one group decides that since since they did not get to attain their dream first, then they will insist on creating a nightmare for everyone else.

However, creating a nightmare for one who shared the same goals as oneself does nothing to help the other person then later attain theirs.

If the Hillary supporters who insist on attacking an entire political party and the supporters of their competition feel they must then help destroy the very group of people they wanted to lead just a few weeks prior, then they must know they will also destroy the candidate they once hoped to help elect.

The DNC has finally been successful across the country. Gains have been made in all fifty States thanks to a 50 State strategy that the chairman of the DNC put into place. It is a good plan and one that a certain candidate ignored. This same candidate also lost a 40% lead in the polls even though she started the campaign with supreme name recognition and all of the support of the major power brokers in her party.

This candidate badly wanted to be the next president of the United States, and her supporters badly wanted her to be the president of the United States. But she lost, she lost her Super delegate lead, she lost her 40% lead in the polls, she lost 11 contests in a row. Then a very unpleasant thing began to occur. Some supporters, not all but some, of the leading candidate used some unflattering remarks to ask the trailing candidate to concede. Without regard to to those who didn't, and without concern to the fallout on the prospects of the very party they wanted to lead, very many supporters of the trailing candidate began accusing all supporters and even the entire media industry of misogyny and rampant vulgar sexism.

These supporters, again I say many but not all, these supporters then declared a scorched earth strategy of destruction of everything they once claimed to stand for and hold close. It became apparent that if they could not have the leadership of the party they would destroy it and the people who were leading it.

These same people still insist upon holding their victim-hood and self righteous outrage over their heads for all to see. What this particular group of people fail to realize is that they are alienating the very people who helped them work for many of the goals they have been able to attain in the past. Many of us have fought long and hard to help support the issues this group once claimed was important to them, and many of us have grown beyond impatient and beyond aggravation with the antics of these sore losers.

Its too bad that two people cannot win the same nomination, but those are the rules. Hillary Clinton agreed to ALL of the rules of this contest before the voting began, therefore when a certain group of her supporters now want to scream insanely over the results of the elections based on these very rules they should realize the only people they hurt are themselves and the only people they help are those who have worked against their interests and dreams since their inception.

Hopefully this group of supporters who do not represent all of the losing candidates supporters will see the folly of their actions and recognize the damage they inflict upon the political future of their own favorite politician.

If they ( this minority of Clinton supporters) insist on remaining so selfish and inconsiderate then I would insist they go ahead and keep their promise to leave and join the party of selfish and inconsiderate people. I am sure they (the GOP) would love to have them.

I hope these women ( most of them are women but not all) can remember what group of people called them feminazis and screamed vile and disgusting things about them over the radio waves for decades. Perhaps before they embrace their old nemesis, they would remember all of the bi gendered pornographic pictures of their candidate that had been propagated across the net by them. Or that the idea that a woman should not have control over her own bodies is THE overriding issue for over one half of the GOP. If this group of supporters, not all supporters, just this group cannot then understand why they look so small and petty with their actions then again I say: GOODBYE and enjoy the company of those who have always hated you and worked against everything you ever claimed to stand for.

Dickerson (no liberal) has an article over at Politics right now, and perusing the board, the consensus seems to be that the avowed Clinton to McCain defections are mainly Republican shills. Certain remarks by posters here--notably, LaurieAnn and Lunesta--reinforce this view. Race may indeed trump party affiliation for this group of mainly older white women.

Privately, I am of two minds about the desirability of Obama winning--I have some very unpopular ideas about McCain, rather than Obama, needing to clean up George Bush's messes; I count myself as psyched up to remain pretty neutral in this election. While I'd never vote for McCain, I won't be crestfallen if he sqeaks in, even though this would cause more hardship to the nation in the short run. But it would probably eliminate the GOP's chances in future elections for a generation. And I would also like to see the Dem Party purified of these mainly female parasites who have benefited from Democratic actions. Indeed, the poetic justice of seeing them vote for McCain and then suffer the consequences is a very tempting indulgence.

Publicly, of course, I must support the Democratic candidate and, like you, hurl brickbats at alleged Democrats who continue to sow dissension in the party. But let's at least recognize cant for what it is: public persuasion by automatic and rather lazy thinking. Winning an election isn't everything--as George W Bush himself proved in 2004.

Good job, NickD.

Now: Tell me why I should vote for Obama.

Convince me, NickD.

It is the welfare of the country that is at stake and not the dreams of a particular group of people. Sure the Obama people have worked hard for his candidacy. Sure Barack Obama dreams of being presidency...he probably wants it so badly that it consumes him.

So what? His presidency would create a nightmare for this country greater than the biblical plagues, so it is more prudent and more critical that his dreams turn into a nightmare instead.

Obama does not deserve to be president...he has not earned it. It is not his turn. African Americans do not deserve to have an African American president of their choosing just because their ancestors were treated badly. They have dreams...but their dreams conflict with mine so I will work to do my part to shatter their dreams.

I don't care if Obama's loss causes him psychological trauma for the rest of his life. Obama has dreams.....yeah, so did Hitler.

Jack

Your racial enmity is showing again. You can't help it, I guess. Parsing your statement:

"African Americans do not deserve to have an African American president of their choosing just because their ancestors were treated badly. They [African Americans] have dreams...but their dreams conflict with mine so I will work to do my part to shatter their dreams."

You're saying that your dreams and those of A-A's are in conflict, and so you will shatter their dreams. That is no different that a Black demagogue like Farrakhan or Wright (in a bad moment) stating that since his dreams are opposed to those of whites, he will work to shatter Whites' dreams. Racist to the core, my friend.

Your equating Obama to Hitler shows what a nutcase (or a melodramatist) you're turning out to be. You're the one who started it, talking about shattering African Americans' dreams.

Gotta read in context, Gene. I know that is difficult for a Liberal. John Kerry and his folks had dreams too and I played a very small part in shattering those dreams as well.

Barack Obama is a candidate for president. His primary support is from 97% of the black population (along with a small percentage of leftist whackos). That tells me that it is a racial thing. The black population wants a black president...and they care not that he is an unqualified boob. Their dreams are going to be shattered, as well they should be.

I'm not talking about shattering their dreams of prospering, getting good jobs, being treated as equals, sending their kids to college, etc etc. and you probably know that but will not admit it because Liberals are incapable of speaking truth. I am speaking of shattering their dreams of electing a fucking moron to the White House...just because he is black.

Jack

waaaaaaambulance?

Isn't it funny that the first time that things aren't going just right for Obama, his supporters go ballistic? The DNC could 'give' Obama the nomination but it can't give Obama the votes of the disenfranchised segment of the Democratic Party. Currently, about 25 percent [official numbers] of the Democratic Party consisting of men and women of all minorities, except Black, and all socio-economic classes are refusing to vote for Obama.

Obamacrats are insisting on translating that 25 percent as being just old White women [Obamacrat terminology]. Pathetic eh?

Obamacrats were warned and yet they cheered the blatant rigging of the system anyway. Now all those raucous political birds have come home to roost and Obamacrats cannot accept that they -- via their endorsement of the techniques used to 'select' Obama -- 'blew it' big time and that now Obama and the shocked [yes the SHOCKED] DNC have got to spend a fair amount of time convincing one-quarter of the Democratic Party that democracy does exist within the party itself.

Hey, good luck with that.

Perhaps when you Obamacrats embrace reality enough to understand that you have even huge numbers of minority men and women not liking the way in which Obama was 'selected', not to mention the nature of his other, very much real, drawbacks [lack of real experience, ultra liberal politics, bizarre personal background] then -- and only then -- can you and Obama and the corrupt DNC begin to address the real problems within the party itself.

But then Obamacrats are fantasists living in a rose-colored dreamworld . . . as evidenced by the completely incorrect nature of this typical top post. I don't expect Obama's supporters to grasp anything approaching reality for some time to come. If you are very, very lucky, however, both Obama and the cynical DNC will understand what really occurred and begin taking steps to address the real problems.

But they'd better hurry.

contained in your reply genedio, to NickD, " . . . I would also like to see the Dem Party purified of these mainly female parasites who have benefited from Democratic actions," makes it truly ironic that you falsely accused JackDallas of racism in his reply below.

But then it is typical of Obamacrats that their average post and reply reek of casual bigotry and they are utterly unaware of that fact. In the process of opposing racism and bigotry you managed to become that which you oppose. Just because your racism and bigotry is aimed at a different group of people this does not make it any less racist or bigoted in nature.

Obamacrats are the fanatics, for the most part, of the Democratic Party and the first thing that fanatics do is deliberately eschew balanced thought as somehow smacking of political or ideological heresy.

the has been an equal amount of threatening from both the obama supporters and hillary supporters to "sit it out" if the other side one.

i specifically remember reading (many, many times) that the entire black democratic electorate would stay home on election day if hillary was the nominee.

i blame this on a sense of "entitlement", when candidates run not on their records, but on the politics of identity. if either hillary or obama was overwhelming qualified, we wouldn't be having this discussion, and nobody would be threatening to stay home or vote for mccan, eh?

its not a woman thing - its a democratic party thing.

when elizabeth dole was knocked out of the republican primaries the year she ran, no republican women started huffing and puffing, you may recall.

From the very fact that any other woman would even be considered for the position of VP is a slap to all of the political horizons that face the people of this nation, after a monumental campaign carried out by a woman like Senator Clinton. No other woman can come close...and it would be a farce, and a political joke on the nation, typical of what the DNC does to this nation.

Governor Strickland of Ohio said it best when he said that "if offered the position of VP, he would not accept, if nominated for the position of VP, he would refuse, and if "elected on the ticket as VP", he would NOT serve".

That, to me is the perfectly aware democratic politician telling the media and the nation that this current candidate Obama is a hoax and a fraud and someone like a Governor Strickland of Ohio wouldn't want to touch Obama's presidential ticket within 100 feet with any kind of a VP pole.

That's how I read his remarks, and I take it at face value, considering that as a leading political democrat, Gov Strickland in a matter of speech, figuratively gave the Obama campaign the "finger" to all of this talk of VP.

Why should any Presidential candidate need to have a VP who could give the presidential candidate the "gravitas and round out his lack of foreign policy experience and knowledge, round out his lack of economic policy experience and knowledge, round out his lack of national security policy experience and knowledge?"

A successful presidential candidate has to embody within his own character, accomplishments and intellectual capacity and intellectual strength, all of these qualities, and not have a campaign staff throwing out other leaders' names who may or may not appear to "give this presidential candidate the appearance of qualities and intellectual capabilities he totally lacks".

Obama is another 0911 waiting to happen. He is simply a "front man" for more nefarious elements, national and international, who are using him as the "pivotal element" to take possession and control of the most technologically advanced military-industrial complex in the world. It is the ONLY way to accomplish such a feat...and the american nation is swallowing this farce hook line and sinker.

Just about every post I've read of yours does just that, Gates.

White women between the age of 55 to 75 happen to be a racist bunch, by and large. Sorry. I said that race trumps party affiliation for many of this group, and I stand by that statement. They are racist not only against Blacks, but against Mexican Americans. They have benefited by actions of the Democratic Party economically and in the right of choice, but many are prepared to bite the hands that fed them and throw their lot in with a party that holds more traditional views of womens' role, that has opposed equal pay for equal work, family leave benefits, extending health insured to children (at least), etc., etc. Hence, they are ingrates and parasites. Good riddance.

Younger white women have much more sense and know where their loyalties lie.

You voted for Obama in the primary and helped catapult the man who could win the Presidency over Hillary to the white House. Bet on it.

It has nothing to do with race, or politics as you envision them. People aren’t voting for him because he’s black—they’re voting for him because he’s not a republican or offering more of the same and they are scared in this economy and lashing out.

Here’s the problem Jack—because of the drawn out primary the Democrats now have an effective organization in every state whereas McCain didn’t really need to compete in many of them and has catching up to do. The democrats have more money raised as well. Those are two prime indicators.

But the thing nobody will get past is the economy. Come the election gas where I live will be $5 a gallon—I gassed up this morning at $4.76. The floods in Iowa will increase food inflation prices even further.

Every time someone gasses up, or buys groceries or makes a mortgage or rent payment or gets heating oil or needs virtually ANYTHING they get slapped and this little guy comes out in the back of their heads and says ‘change things’.

People care about gay marriage and values issues politics and winning the war in Iraq after they care about being able to handle the basics. There is no trump card for a sluggish economy.

What did in Poppy Bush and Dole is what will do in McCain. When the economy is a mess the party of the White House takes a beating. Look at the few special elections (held in Republican districts) that went Democratic—it doesn’t augur well for you.

Obama will win. As inconceivable as that is to you. People just don’t care about much of anything other than the fact that they feel anxious and will reflexively make a change hoping that will help.

The irony is that McCain could have probably beaten Hillary. He can’t beat Obama—and you helped get him there—you personally helped put him in office. It’s like watchin’ a cartoon and you’re Wile E. Coyote running on air and you’re just hanging there in midair getting ready to hold up a sign and fall into the canyon.

I’m pretty sure that you helping to elect the first black President and a Democrat is one of the signs of the apocalypse. It’s the problem with certitude and why we’re always better off acting out of principle. It’s too easy to outsmart ourselves when we try to game the system.

Take comfort in the fact that you couldn’t have done much about it—it really is going to be the economy this time around.

you are a stupid lying b*tch,gendio. It's mainly white suburban women many of whom between 25 and 60, not 55plus who Obama can't seem to reach..white suburban women who by and large are educated well and affluent.

You and Nick and the saggy 60 year old tatooed woman have your heads so far up your asses over Obamaramabamabooba that you can not see straight.

I wrote six times the last few days to NickD that it isn't because of Hillary that I can not vote for Obama it is because he,Obama, is clearly incompetent as well as a liar.

It is because of his own lack of ability.

Damn! what is it with your crowd that you you just don't get that?