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Kindle?
by artandsoul
Anyone else have a Kindle - the Amazon.com reader?

We got one for my husband for Father's Day.

After a bit of frustration on his part (hell no I am not reading the instructions) we got it up and running.

We've now "downloaded" two novels. I use quotation marks because this "download" is basically a wireless transfer from Amazon.com to the kindle and it is instant!

The Kindle is about the size of a large Penguin Paperback, and about as heavy as a paperback version of Hamlet with no commentary.

The screen is not back lit so it is pretty easy on the eyes.

My husband is thrilled because he doesn't need his reading glasses and that makes him feel younger. :)

There is a share-ware at this point which lets owners of Kindle share their downloads with their friends for free. Making it pretty cost-effective if you live in a family or community of voracious readers.

Anyone else have one? Hints, shortcuts, good things to know?
Re: On starting a fire.
by DragonTat2

you said, "There is a share-ware at this point which lets owners of Kindle share their downloads with their friends for free. Making it pretty cost-effective if you live in a family or community of voracious readers."

Shut Up ! Unless the upload to your friends is instant, and you want to send everyone every book they can think to maybe one day want to read, in that case... I'd like Confessions of an Economic Hit-Man and this. Thanks!

Re: On starting a fire.
by artandsoul
Well the "Pricing" book isn't "Kindled" yet -or if it is I can't find the Kindle link. I have to check on Confessions -is it any good?

I think you can only upload it to other Kindle users, and that requires purchase of a Kindle.

Oy, I'm overloading on information here!!! :)
Re: There's a useless Bonus.
by DragonTat2

Why upload for friends and family if they already have the same program?

Anyway, "Pricing" most likely won't show up, and "Confessions" is pretty good. I bought a paperback copy, but didn't realize the first seven pages were missing until it was too late to return it. I'll get it from the library and read the 7, then throw my copy away. Or use the paper for something else. Hey! I could make paper out of the paper. Thanks for a great idea.

I overloaded myself, as well. There's a few interesting news stories out. I wish I could care less.

Re: There's a useless Bonus.
by artandsoul
LOL! No, it's not a useless bonus. You still have to buy the books.

So with Kindle I go to Amazon and buy a book for $10. It downloads to my "media site" and I can share it with other Kindle users and they can read the book without having to buy it.

I imagine once millions of people have one (if they do) then it won't be possible to share like that any more.

Purchasing the downloadable "book" for the kindle is about $2 or $3 off price. Some savings, not much.

But if I had my own Kindle and my dad had one too - then we could read my husband's books without having to buy them.

You know what is a good think to do with old paperbacks? Use them in collage. I make mixed media art pieces -- and scraps of books are really useful! You may want to donate your old books or damaged books to a community art center. :)

Take care!
Re: Ooh. That makes more sense.
by DragonTat2

I enjoy making paper.

Thanks for the tip.

Obama - 2008 !

I'd love to do that.
by artandsoul
Could you start a post on how to make paper?

I've seen posts on BotF on Geometry and Color Spectrums.

One on how to make paper would be useful! :)

Yes indeed - Obama '08!
Re: I'd love to do that.
by DragonTat2

Wiki-How has an article about making paper. I've seen paper made out of old denim cloth, too.

Re: I'd love to do that.
by artandsoul
Cool thanks!!! I never even heard of "Wiki-how"!!

WOW!
Re: I guess we'll see less of you.
by DragonTat2

Unless the Fray addiction has fully kicked in already.

There's another site, Instructables, that's pretty good, too.

OMG!
by artandsoul
I can't wait til tomorrow!!! I'm totally redoing my workspace!

I have mostly used the DIY website, but these are GREAT!

www.diynetwork.com
Question for you
by OneEyedJasper

I've been contemplating getting one. It sounds like a cool gadget but I hope it doesn't go the way of the "rocket book."

How is the word search? Could I do a search for say "reapers" in the book "Rise of Endymion" and come up with the section where the "reapers" in the book (of which the Shrike is a member) were born from a no kidding non-fiction software experiment/development in the 1980s that explored how software programs and memes could be made to compete against other programs in a budding cyber ecology--an ecology that would one day become the technocore?

I have some very specific uses for the Kindle.

Well...
by artandsoul
the word search is pretty straightforward ... you press the search button and you get a blank and then you type in the word and it brings up all the pages in the book that have that word.

It is pretty easy to scroll through the pages.

The keyboard is like Blackberry's keyboard. The page is very easy on the eyes.

Supposedly the Kindle will accept any PDF from your computer, so you're not limited to buying books from Amazon.com.

I hope that answers your question -- that stuff about the technocore is eerie! So, is the Endymion series a good one? I'm a peripheral sci-fi fan, so I'm not as well versed in what is good and what isn't as I am in other genres.
SPOILER WARNING!
by OneEyedJasper

Yes. It answers my question. Thanks. I was kinda just fishing for features. I'll probably buy one.

So overall I guess you'd say it's worth the $300+?

Rise of Endymion is the last book in the "Hyperion" series (Hyperion, Fall of Hyperion, Endymion, and Rise of Endymion) and it's by far the best series I've ever read. The author tries (and succeeds) to inject something worthwhile into Science Fiction. He divides the genere into "SF" and "sci-fi" (which he intentionally malaprops as "skiffy"). SF is the good stuff. It is the writing that makes a comment on contemporary society or speculates on future society. "Skiffy" is the space fighting, glitzy, shoot-em-up crap with no real message. Clarke, Heinlein, Dune. . .these are examples of SF. Star Wars and much of Star Trek is sci-fi/skiffy (and he does acknowledge that crap, although perhaps enjoyable, is still crap).

And so the Hyperion series is a real attempt to raise the bar on SF. "Hyperion" is written in a "Canterbury Tales" fashion with 7 pilgrims telling personal stories about their encounters with the Shrike while travelling to the planet Hyperion. The Shrike is an incredible indestructible killing machine confined to a small region on Hyperion called "The Time Tombs." It can slow time in its vicinity and favor one side in a battle or the other. To predict which is futile. Its existence, and purpose throughout much of the series is a complete enigma but one thing is certain. If the Shrike shows up, there's going to be some killin'.

The pilgrims are on their way to Hyperion because the Shrike is begining to roam outside its boundaries. This leads the leaders of humanity to believe the Time Tombs will open very soon and reveal the secrets of time travel. Others are on their way to Hyperion as well. The ones who get the secrets first will gain a decisive advantage in the war with the Ousters that is if they can get past the Shrike. Oh, and one other thing. The pilgrims are of course on humanity's side. But they each have their own personal mission. And one of them harbors a deadly secret that will jeopardize humanity. There are back stabs and counter back stabs worthy of "Dune" in some places.

"Fall of Hyperion" is more conventionally structured and is really the second half of the Hyperion story. Both deal with war, betrayal, the moral impact of technological advancement, poetry, politics, differing cultures. . .the puck's all over the ice in terms of explored themes but the story is very smooth and connected.

In fact, the best aspect of the series is the characterization. The main characters (seven of them) are as diverse as: a priest, a Jewish professor, a tough female detective, a poet, a colonel, a starship captain, and a consul. The reader is pulled into each one's story and you end up giving a damn about each one (except the starship captain but only because he doesn't last long enough to tell his story. He appears to be kidnapped.) This is a welcome and effective mind stretch from the conventional three or four main characters and their interactions.

The last two books pick up hundreds of years after the catastrophe on Hyperion. Again, the characterizations are fantastic. Without going into too much detail it is the story of a savior rising from the wreckage of Hyperion and struggling for all to cast off the resulting church oppression (After the Fall of Hyperion, the church is in resurgence and becomes the political organization of last resort. . .kinda like how the church rose from the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome). The Shrike still lives and many questions are answered like what is the origin of the Shrike? How did the Technocore develop (The Technocore is a collection of Artificial Intelligences that "got smart" in a Vernor Vinge like (or Kurzweil like) singularity. They rocketed beyond humanity in their intelligence and demanded both independence from humanity and collective privacy and received both because they were too powerful to ignore. In the stories, nobody knows where the Technocore's servers are. So the plug can not be pulled. This is very troublesome.) and other questions as well.

Yes. I'd recommend reading the series. It's pretty much the best. Others will disagree with me but if you like what I've written here you may want to check out the first book, Hyperion, for yourself.

Well, what a great rec!
by artandsoul
I'll definitely get it - we're pretty voracious readers here -- I think I'll see if I can "Kindle" it to my husband's machine!

Yes, I'd say its worth it. So far he has blown through a Joseph Wambaugh (Hollywood Crows) and is thrilled with the ease, convenience and pleasure it is to read with. He has downloaded two other books as well. It holds 100 books I think.

He is off to Berlin on Saturday and is looking forward to NOT carrying two or three books for the round trip and time away. My birthday is in August, and I'm asking for one myself.
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