Uh, you Koolaide drinkers can thumb it down all you like.

It doesn't change the truth.

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nope.burying your heads in the sand won't change it at all.

Hmmm, if I were proclaiming my intention of either voting for McCain (Keating Five) or writing in the name of Clinton (Whitewater, et al), I think I would probably wanna steer clear of starting a battle of insinuations of financial impropriety at this stage. But that is just me.

As to Rev Wright, that is clips of what, less that 60 seconds from 20 years of sermons? And even so, aside from his suggestion that the US Government created AIDS as a form of genocide, what part of what he said is not at least mostly true?

I don't think his approach is very productive for the 21st Century, but it reflects the reality of the period in which he has lived the bulk of his life.

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this explains it for those who have a problem seeing what is so disingenous with him.

Buckle up.

It took some doing for Obama's foes to keep
rev Wright's words from getting even a cursory
review for content.

All most people ever heard was "goddamn America"
about 3000 times. If an object person read his words
they might not agree 100 % , and the vitriol in which
he expressed himself is rough, nothing he said couldn't be debated
by intelligent people.

Was it outdated,? Probably. But I hope this doesn't
ofend too many Fox News watchers, but America isn't
perfect, it has pursued destrcutive policies time after time.

Not patriotic to say it out loud? Sorry.....

What most reasonable people ocjected to was Wright
was using his pulpit in a decidedly unGodly way.
The church is for embracing the scriptures, not political
dogma.

The guy does lie and makes some seriously dumb mistakes as well: Just the facts:

Obama LIED about his GRANNY
LIED about HIS FATHER
LIED about HIS MOTHER
LIED about HIS UNCLE
Obama lied about Selma

Obama lied about Auswitiz

Obama lied about being a Professor
Obama lied about passing legislation
Obama lied about REZKO
Obama lied about Rev Wright
Obama lied about Will. Ayers
Obama lied about how he got his Senate Seat
Obama lied ...he did attend school as a MUSLIM, maybe he isn't one now, but he was then
Obama thinks there are 57 States!idiot!
Obama thinks he should hang with Dictators

no problemo?

rotfl.

Any evidence that any of those are lies (as opposed to, for example, simple misstatements -- eg 57 states -- or differences of interpretation)?

And I have seen zero evidence that he ever was Muslim, or that any of his parents/stepparents were ever observant Muslims.

I give Hillary the benefit of the doubt regarding sniper fire in Bosnia or wherever that was supposed to be.

see, your problem Laurie, is that you want us to accept your assessment of Obama's character when it is obvious to anyone reading your posts that you have no skills in judging anyone's character.

just last night you tried to get another poster to dismiss a post of mine as childish and you were told that you were off-base and wrong, wrong.

ooops....she fell out of square slipping on the bot spittle as she hissed and spat.

rotfl.

oh oh oh okay I get it now that Hillary has been taken out of the race by disenfranchising two key states and a huge amount of vicious attention to the sniper remark...now that's okay with you and explains away ALL Of Obama's LIES?!

Is that right, ThPaine?

Oh Holy God of Mary.

His father was a muslim ..his parents liked the religion enough to give him a muslim name and he grew up to attend and support a rabidly anti white rabble rousing racist hate monergering divisive Afro Centric/Christian Church in Chicago for twenty years.

There is no excuse for the latter. None.

I didn't call Hillary a liar about the "sniper fire" and I don't call Obama a liar about which camp his uncle helped liberate, or how many states there are.

If you wanna laugh about mistaking the number of states, I am cool with that -- I laughed at him too. But that is hardly a lie.

Which specific statements about his father are lies, about his grandmother, his school....

why don't we take them one by one...The Selma lie?