of gaining the support of about one third of the feminists in this nation that were alienated by the nature of this nomination contest Obama is going to have to select a female running mate. The race doesn't matter, but the gender does.

So it wouldn't matter if Web walked on water. He's the wrong gender.

If Obama does not select a female running mate then it's quite possible that his run for the presidency is doomed.

If feminists want to cut their own throats and throw their support to a man who publicly called his own wife a c-nt or just stay home (which amounts to the same thing), then there isn't anything Obama can do to appease them.

This whole "my identity politics trumps yours" nonsense has gone way too far. Would you vote for Obama if he picked Paris Hilton as his running mate? She's the "right" gender after all.

Wrong, Gatewood.

If Obama picks a woman, it will be so very clear that he chose a woman only due to the pressure he was feeling from the (somehow) embittered Hillary women. He would look weak and under the control of the Clintons.

That's exactly how to lose the respect of those women he would supposedly be trying to woo, but also the respect of the bulk of the electorate.

The "Hillary women" like Gatewood don't have any respect for Obama. They never have and never will. To them, he will always be the evil MAN who ruinned what they thought was a sure thing. There isn't anything he can do to change that. All he can do is hope they realise that he's all they got if they still want to vote for their own self-interest.

You're right. And it's sad. I mean, the support by many for Hillary was so unabashedly sexist. If they were willing to support her, then if she didn't win, vote for McCain who is her opposite on so many issues, then clearly they were just voting for her vagina. Clearly, if they liked her ideas they should now be supporting Obama whole hog.

I understand their disappointment. And it was a very close nomination race. But bitterness I can not understand.

There's nothing to understand. They are immune to logic.

".....clearly they were just voting for her vagina." (!!!) One of the Greatest Lines Ever ! : D

I'm in Hysterics.

- Orff

Orff:

".....clearly they were just voting for her vagina." (!!!) One of the Greatest Lines Ever ! : D

I'm in Hysterics.

- Orff

That's appropriate, considering that the word "hysteria" is derived from the Greek work for uterus.

This may be true to some extent only but will probably not be a significant factor in the final outcome. If it does it would not say much for the politically modern woman in America. Certainly there are many smart, strong, educated women that deserve consideration and they should be given a chance to make their contribution to their country.

"Certainly there are many smart, strong, educated women that deserve consideration and they should be given a chance to make their contribution to their country."

Most definitely. If Obama does his review of any and all possible Veep picks and that one he believes gives him the best chance of winning the election and would be the best Veep, and that person happens to be a woman, terrific.

After Hillary, it would however, be seen as a sop to women, weak pandering out of fear of losing the Hillary supporters to McCain. That would ultimately undo his entire campaign.

Yes, one possible outcome if you believe that most of whom you speak of are chronically feeble minded. But consider, Should Obama do anything to win even if he does not believe in what he is doing? Is it more important to try to pander to those who may or may not view his choice with suspision than to do the right thing? I thought that Obama doing what he believes is right and best for the Country is what we are hoping for, gender aside. His choice should reflect his campagin values of inclusion an important pillar upon which it stands. He must look inwardly and use his best jugement, as this is the basis upon which the country will ultimately judge him. While he can never please everyone his chances of meaningful success diminishes if he can never please himself.

Obviously you are reffering to Hillary specifically because of your personal views of her however bizzare the joke. In general though it goes against the grain of tolerance to public sleaze in civil society. Hope we havent run out of Hillary jokes that we can all still laugh at.

Yes, Neal. Obama should do whatever he believes is the right thing to do for his country, regardless of political consequences. But in politics there are always political consequences. I am only pointing out how a female Veep choice will play among the electorate.