If you're a Democrat who will not vote for Obama on the basis of "gender solidarity", give your vote to Cynthia McKinney, the leading candidate for the Green Party nomination.

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That woman is disgustingly arrogant and dumber than a sack of hammers to boot. I mean really, really, really STOOOPID.

Great idea! - because voting for Nadar worked out so well for us.

Just think of it this way..

You voted Hillary because she represented your values AND she was a woman candidate.

This is a woman candidate who probably supports MORE of your values than John McAnti-abortion/pro-war AND she's a woman candidate for President.

And heck, you might even be able to impact some of this woman's policy with your voting block. John McCain will give you some pretty words of sympathy, but he doesn't care enough about your vote to change his policy even a little.

I still think holding your nose and voting Obama, or even holding some sort of meeting with Obama and presuring him to change some of his policies to be more like Clinton's, is a more productive approach to getting something you want out of a politician. But if you absolutely cannot stomache Obama, she seems a lot better than a hard-line republican.

re para 3: We are in complete agreement. I would argue that in a close election, voting for a person who (like Nadar) has no chance of winning is only slightly less harmful than voting for the enemy.

Well if your values include anti-semitism, paranoid 9/11conspiracy theories, accusing Al Gore of racism and bizarre altercations with Capitol police, McKinney is your girl.

I live in Atlanta and have met the woman several times. It was scary. The lights were on, but there was nobody, and I mean nobody, home.

Though I have never voted for Nader or the Green Party, I would tend to disagree with your reasoning. After the 2000 election, the Democratic Party had to start taking seriously many of the environmental concerns of the Greens, where before that, the Party took their votes and support for granted. It may have been a steep price to pay, but obviously some felt it was worth it,

This is America, and any voter has not only the right, but the responsibility to vote for the person they feel represents their values and ideals. It is the candidates responsibility to convince these voters that he/she is that candidate. It is incumbant upon Senator Obama to convince these people to vote for him.

Writing them off as nut jobs, or going on rants how these are wasted votes or half votes for McCain falls way short of what needs to be done.

I stand corrected. I'm not familiar with the woman.

OMG. They started taking environmental issues seriously BECAUSE OF AL GORE. If we had elected him in the first place. We could have been working on the things he talked about in an "Inconvenient Truth" instead of talking about how it might be too late.

If women leave the Dem party, we LOOSE power because we will be seen as fickle and unreliable. Who will then take up our issues the Republicans? Are you kidding?

Beautiful. :-)

puhLEEZE.

If you vote for anyone but the Democratic Nominee...you vote for McCain.

I was prepared to hold my nose and vote for the neocon racist, Clinton. Why? Because I was determined to vote AGAINST McCain.

Solidarity...for women? Do you HONESTLY believe that McCain's appointments to the bench are going to help any of women's causes? He has made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that he intends to appoint more Alitos and Thomases...men who will make certain to undo any progress made for women's and other humans' rights.

Gender Solidarity?

Yeah. Right.

My post wasn't aimed at people who've decided to vote Dem no matter who was on the ticket. It's aimed at people who simply can't stomach voting for Obama because of the misogyny in the press. If indeed you are one of the people who sees yourself as voting in "gender solidarity" in protest of HRC's mistreatment, then I would heartily suggest that you give your vote to a woman who is far closer to HRC's values than McCain and would actually mean that those values (rather than your "hurt feelings") of women in status positions, women dictating policy, and women as capable representatives of all people get play when pundits talk about your influence on the Democratic ticket's chances regardless of whether or not the Dems win this year.

McKinney does have a mixed reputation, as it were, but if you see her platform and her statements I think it's fair to see that she makes the right stand on a lot of them -- going farther than anyone in the Dem party on calling bullshit over the last 8 years. Coordinate, speak out, reach out -- if you all make contact with McKinney you might make her a better candidate and communicator and people can see that there are more women in leadership positions than just HRC.

Thanks for reading.

I was prepared to hold my nose and vote for the neocon racist, Clinton.

Whoa! Nobody on this thread needs to be nasty about the candidates, please don't get everyone upset and fighting again.

I would have voted for Clinton at the head of the ticket if she had won. But talk about a difference of perspective. I was unsure about the "mandate" on healthcare. I thought it might almost be too liberal for me. Not that the concept of universal healthcare is unattractive, I just don't see a reasonable way to do it without making a single payer system.

HRC is not the enemy, she was when we were in the primary(you gotta admit it felt that way on both sides), but now the enemy is McCain, and my enemy's enemy is my friend.