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by tommycatnyc
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I'm already exhausted by the relentless and fearful catering that people feel needs to be done to certain female Clinton supporters who are threatening to not vote or to vote for MCain; ya know what? Let em. If they're willing to (out of some perceived slight done them by the MEDIA, repeat, NOT the Obama campaign, but the MEDIA) sacrifice Roe v Wade and an epic amount of other advancements in women's and civil rights in order to (...what?) prove a point (that ...what?), then by all means that is their right. Hillary Clinton lost this election fair and square. The popular vote storyline is easily refutable and by all other counts (Delegates, Superdelegates, states won) she lost. She is an incredible politician and one of this country's most inspiring and important figures, ever. So in order to celebrate this historic race and her important advancements in the discourse of politics in this country her supporters are going to chop off their noses to spite their own faces, en mass, in public? Come on. Grow up. Senator Webb is an extraordinarily qualified and worthwhile VP candidate. There are many reasons to have him on the ticket and many not to, but catering to some fringe group that is threatening to nuke the whole party, the whole culture, in order to show how slighted they feel shouldn't be one of them. You feel victimized now? Wait till McCain replaces 2 Supreme Court Justices with Pat Robertson Specials.
John Paul Stevens is 88
by hellpop
Ruth Bader Ginsberg is 75...and heck, Scalia is 72 , but thinking about his age just starts me hoping for illnesses to be inflicted on him which in turn really makes me feel bad about myself. Maybe I should hope for a nice health care scare, maybe prostate cancer that they get on top of real early and treat but makes Scalia want to spend more time at home to live another 30 years happily with his family. Yeah that's what I will hope for..

anyway those first two folks are old especially Stevens. If anyone is a feminist who thinks she should stay home or vote for McCann, then she isn't much of a femist.
Re: John Paul Stevens is 88
by Thevail

You know, this is one my major beefs with them. Presidents can be "not elected again" every four years. Senators can be "not elected again" every six, and congresspersons every 2.

But the Supreme Court is for LIFE, people. For the ever increasing LIFESPAN ofthe individual.

How many times (like the last eight years) has the Supreme Court cushioned the American people from the whims of an unfit President, or an overly partisan congress? Far Far too many to count. Itis their job.

I want judges who respect the Laws of this Land more than they kowtow to special interest groups and a specific party in this country. This is the final, remaining lynch-pin of our dysfunctional government. If we can keep it safe we can recover. If it goes down in flames, so does our country and our childrens rights.

We have had Republicans appointing judges in this country for 20 of the last 28 years, and the Supreme Court is quietly falling in line appointment by appointment. I'm not saying that we need a screaming lefty liberal court, just one that is balanced.

One that will protect the rights of all citizens, minorities and women included which has not always been the case.

And that needs to be our priority above party politics, above policies that may well be changed in another 4 years or may simply fail regardless of who proposed or supported them, above the stab and jab that is politics as a whole, and far above the spin and rhetoric we are inundated with every day about what is supposed to be important, but which changes every other day.

The fact is, the presidency of the United States of America is a temporary job held by people both competent and incompetent, good and evil, and sometimes just plain stupid. But the Supreme Court is the most important job in this country. And I personally would love to see a couple of justices appointed, not for purely political reasons, but by a constitutional law professor who knows EXACTLY what that position means andis willing to put SMART people on the Supreme Court not just HIS people.

Obama '08

Re: ugh
by cbarrett
This is right on the money! McCane will be the first Hoover of this century. If Obama wants "tough love" and real Change, he will absolutely need hard ball hitters like Webb and Biden and Hillary....she works very strongly in the Senate...surely she will be rigorous and effective there. Pissed off Democrats are wetting their own Nike Trainer shoes. If they want a 21st century Machiavelli - McCane is their man!
Re: ugh
by b0nnylass

Very well said, tommycat. I really don't know what the spiteful Hillary supporters are thinking. Disappointment is understandable, but I wonder if they truly realize the stakes of this election. If McCain wins, Roe v Wade is gone. Jeez, I would have to believe most moderate Republicans don't really want that to happen, either. Do they?

Are the Hillary supporters deluding themselves into thinking McCain would appoint another Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court? Not gonna happen.

I don't think they are..necessarily
by Thevail

They're just P.O.'d

I haven't heard even ONE cogent argument about what OBAMA supposedly did to piss them off.

Seriously, I've heard that the MSM is evil, that the DNC is evil, that many of Obama's supporters are horrible or rude.

But not one reason why they have decided to punish OBAMA for her loss. So vote Obama and vote out the member of the DNC in your state. Or vote Obama, but don't send money to the DNC. Or vote Obama, and boycott Fox news or whatever.

But of all the people who have wronged Hillary Clinton, Obama wasn't one of them.

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