Oh, Beam, great Uniting Strategy you Obama fans are showing for your fellow Democrats! - "Hillary classy, her supporters not so much." Perhaps you can tune that message a little sharper, and alienate even more Clinton supporters than you already have.

But whatever! Your man won't miss us or our votes anyway! Unless - uh oh - it costs him the election.

So many of us actually value Hillary's record over your candidate's glib talk, don't see much substance in his slim portfolio or his sparkling motivational style, and do not mind crossing over to vote for a Republican candidate who connects with us. Yeah, McCain is actually that guy.

May the best candidate win.

trans-pecos:

But whatever! Your man won't miss us or our votes anyway! Unless - uh oh - it costs him the election.

Ah, yes....again the messiah worship comes out.

"I would rather have 4 more years of a Republican White House than have to vote for a Democrat who isn't my most favoritist person in the whole wide world."

Do you stand for a principle or do only stand for a person? I'll bet you really wet your pants when your favorite pick gets eliminated in American Idol.

Clearly, Democracy isn't for you.

@TiQuinn,

Actually, TiQuinn, though I was referring to Christopher Beam's blogs throughout the Dem primaries, your post is also a really good example of the Obama fan problem. I will not answer your rhetoric, I will just observe that it is insulting and rude. But this is really not about you, it's about Obama and his supporters as viewed by the rest of us life-long Democrats.

Of course, it is possible that Obama could make a good president; he may be even what this country needs. But if you are truly interested in helping him win, why are you so hostile and superior to people whom you want to support your candidate?

May I observe that Obama's "perception problem" is not a product of my imagination--it is a pretty big topic at present, you and me aside. Fortunately, Mr. Obama and his supporters have a few months to work on it; and who knows, maybe millions of voters are in fact lying about their intentions.

Ok, seriously now.

TiQuinn: When can we, as a nation, let this go? The longer that anyone sits around and points fingers at the other side is that much more irritated the other side will get. In this case, I don't think anyone needs to remind Clinton supporters she didn't win the nomination. We all know that- but when someone loudly points that out while waiving the "OBAMA 08!!!" flag high above their heads, the more distaste there will be.

If Clinton won the nomination and someone was acting like that to you, how would that make you want to vote come November?

And in the interest of fairness, trans-pecos: If you're concerned about Clinton's stated policies on Iraq, healthcare, Women's Rights, labor or most of the other top-billing campaign talking points, then any reasonable reading of McCain's plans probably aren't going to make you say "Gee, this is close to what Hillary wanted!" Obama may have had his share of glib talk, but he had a record, too, and it's remarkably similar to Clinton's.

Will be like GWB’s, and further erode the Dollar.

Poor oversight by the GOP resulted in lost confidence in the $.

Diplomatic failure, fiscal failure, military standoff, devalues the Dollar.

If the dollar had held its value with respect to the Euro $4.00 gas would be $2.50.

$100.00 in 2002 is worth $62.50, now. NOW that is a real Tax.

Colage, thank you for that thoughtful opinion. I am actually still studying McCain's positions, and personally don't make decisions this important based on a knee-jerk reaction. But you may hear it from other Democrats: they like McCain's leadership style, his independence, the way he communicates, his record.

I can't name one thing Obama has done, unless it is to demonstrate a remarkable stage presence. He is a first term senator whose reputation is to vote "present" rather than take a stance. Frankly, engenders fear rather than trust. What can he do about it? That is the question.

We are all living in this partisan echo chamber, and MSNBC is our poison. Keith Olberman is a sanctimonious idiot and I promised to tune out after that diatribe about the RFK reference.

But, while you are checking out McCain's position and record, you may want to check out Obama's---just to be fair.

Colage:

If Clinton won the nomination and someone was acting like that to you, how would that make you want to vote come November?

Seriously, there was never a doubt in my mind that if Clinton won the nomination, even though I do not support her, it's more important to me that a Democrat win this election than my personal feelings about Clinton per se. I would've voted for her. So, it rankles me to hear supposed Democrats go on and on about their self-imposed disenfranchisement.

Trans-Pecos,

Obama's "present" votes were in Illinois, and it is a typical practice to say "I agree with part of the bill, but there is a part I can't accept". Case in point, the late-term abortion bill...it was at NOW's urging that Obama voted "present". That has been explained several times by Illinois politicians, maybe you missed it?

Before voting for McCain you might want to check out his stance on the issues, they are completely opposite to Clinton and Obamas.

trans-pecos:

Of course, it is possible that Obama could make a good president; he may be even what this country needs. But if you are truly interested in helping him win, why are you so hostile and superior to people whom you want to support your candidate?

Because I'm not at all interested in courting people who's voting preference drifts in the wind to the point that they'd so easily switch political parties.

trans-pecos:

But if you are truly interested in helping him win, why are you so hostile and superior to people whom you want to support your candidate?

Reread you top post and then talk about who's hostile.

TiQuinn ! Well i guess thats convenient for you to say now,since obama has stole the nomination ! So you would back the DEMS. no matter who was running ? I find that very hard to believe .

reddawg:

TiQuinn ! Well i guess thats convenient for you to say now,since obama has stole the nomination ! So you would back the DEMS. no matter who was running ? I find that very hard to believe .

Are you people insane? I mean, truly, have you really tuned out the past 8 years to that degree? This is why I have no interest in placating Clinton supporters who are so bitter about the primaries that they can't bring themselves to support the Democratic nominee (someone who is very close to Clinton in voting record to boot).

I feel the same way about this as I do the folks who voted for Bush in 2004: No room to complain about Iraq, no room to complain about healthcare.