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Ooooooo . . . poor 'ittle
by Gatewood
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Obamacrat fanatics. You don't get to outright steal this nomination. You have to do it the hard way, in the open, where everyone can see the DNC 'struggle' to hand it to Obama. You have my deepest [chuckle] sympathy!

Relax. You WILL have Obama as the nominee; eventually that is. You will also leave the Democratic Party in shambles in the process. But, hey, sometimes the democratic process is an ugly thing.

I still think that Obama will probably win the general election afterwards because the conservatives reeeeaaaalllllyyyyy do not like McCain enough to vote for him in a concerted mass on election day; certainly not, in any event, enough to fill his campaign coffers. So even if you lose as much as twenty percent of mainstream democrats over this blatant rigging of the nomination process in Obama's favor you probably will get to call Slick 'Bama president some day . . . by a tiny little voting margin, that is.

So time will tell, but it's looking more and more like you are going to have to pry this nomination out of Hillary's cold, dead, hands and that, mind-children, is what she was talking about in her RFK reference of last week.

Re: Ooooooo . . . poor 'ittle
by Colage

Obama is trying to steal the election? He's not the one who comes out with a new mathematical formula that proves he's winning, and he doesn't change his stripes as the situation sees fit.

Clinton came out with more than she deserved yesterday. How many people that voted for Clinton wouldn't have if they were able to choose Obama, Edwards, Richardson, or Biden? Why is it that the rules changed 4 months after the fact anyway?

And the idea that the nomination was rigged is ridiculous. Clinton is far more entrenched in the DNC than Obama is, and still she couldn't manage to get her way. Before the voting started, she had all the donors, all the support, and all the name recognition. Maybe it's just time to accept the fact that she's a bad candidate.

Do a bit of homework and
by Gatewood

look into places you do not want to look. In particular Google Donna Brazille and Obama together or Donna Brazille and the DNC and SHAZAM! You will receive a disturbing surprise or two.

Not that I think you have enough integrity to give that an honest investigation. The moment you began to sniff out the truth you would immediately shut down your thoughts and return to being just another generic foam-at-the-brain-pan, mindless, Obamacrat fanatic.

Re: Do a bit of homework and
by Colage

Yeah, since I don't have the wisdom to support Clinton, I'm clearly a flaming idiot who is devoid of any positive traits.

You're heavy on the accusations and light on the proof. You say that the election is blatantly being "stolen," which I would take to mean a group of people working behind the scenes to change the winner by bypassing the rules of the game. Which campaign is trying to do that? I don't know what scorecard you're looking at, but if the Clinton campaign felt that disenfranchising Florida and Michigan was such a travesty maybe they should have spoken up earlier. Or, if they felt that caucus votes weren't fair, they should have said so earlier.

But, instead, these issues come up once it's apparent that these mechanisms work counter to her goals. So, maybe instead of sitting here and acting like you and the other Clinton supporters are the sole guardians of some sacred truth, you should accept the fact that per the rules agreed on by both campaigns, Clinton lost despite having all the advantages to start out with. Then again, that would probably take time away from throwing juvenile insults at people who disagree with you, so I'm not holding my breath.

As I predicted you are too much
by Gatewood
the unethical coward to honestly do a bit of investigation. It's rather sad to go through life that frightened of the truth.
Re: As I predicted you are too much
by Colage

Well, by all means, feel free to present me with your evidence as to why this election is "being stolen." Last time I checked, "I'm right, I have the evidence, but I'm not going to tell you what it is" isn't really an effective debate tactic.

As far as cowardice goes, gutsy move accusing me of that while not paying attention to my arguments.

Re: Ooooooo . . . poor 'ittle
by markci
WAH WAH WAH I DIDN'T GET MY WAY SO I'M GOING TO JUMP UP AND DOWN AND STAMP MY FEET AND CRY LIKE A FOUR-YEAR-OLD GIRL 57 TIMES A DAY WAH WAH WAH
Yes, we know. We have been
by Gatewood

watching Obamacrats do just that for a couple of months now.

It's been amusing; but the real fun should start when it is just Obama against McCain and the GOP and their stealth operatives.

Re: Yes, we know. We have been
by Thevail

The real fun WILL start now that it's Obama vs. McCain.

And Hillary and Bill Clinton and their little lap dog Ickes have been the ones in charge in the democratic party who could have gotten these rules changed to something fair anytime in the last 16 years. They didn't, because they didn't want to.

As long as they thought the superdelegates would all support her no matter what, why would they.

Surprise.

Re: Yes, we know. We have been
by Colage

Gatewood:

[We have been] watching Obamacrats do just that for a couple of months now.

Have you really? I laid my case out several posts up and you haven't responded. All you've offered is a vague connection between Brazile and Obama that no credible source has documented.

Gatewood sandwiches
by pwoxby

Oh goody, more tasty Gatewood sandwiches. A top slice of insults, unsubstantiated nonsense in the middle, and a bottom slice of insults. Best of all, they are content calorie free.

Obama/Clinton 08!

Re: Gatewood sandwiches
by tjcerveza

At a time when the party should begin coming together for the tough race ahead, Ickes/Clinton spat in the face of Michican Democrats and Senator Obama. This scorched earth tactic means just one thing, they are already plotting for 2012. Typical Clinton.

Obama/Anybody but Clinton 08

Re: Yes, we know. We have been
by Reader2

Gatewood, your arguments are ugly and ignorant. You do not persuade anybody, so what is your point in even posting here? You only spew irrational hatred. When you say Hillary "is ahead in the popular vote", are you counting my precinct caucus where Obama won 3 to 1? No, you are not. Is that fair?

Child, a precinct caucus is NOT
by Gatewood
a nationwide election process. I would 'splain it further but I wouldn't want to risk causing you brain damage via unaccustomed thought.
Re: Child, a precinct caucus is NOT
by Gatesta
You tell them, mother. or father. I was never sure. Who wielded the turkey baster in the relationship? I think I am old enough to know.
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