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Courtesy Jack

Man, that guy is nuts! If this is the kind of performance they put on regularly at that church, you really need to wonder about the judgment of anyone who'd choose to go there on a regular basis. Between the racism (all white people walked into companies because of who their fathers and grandfathers were), the race-baiting (Clinton only cried because she thought she was entitled to win by her race), and the absolutely unhinged performance (a combination of heavy breathing and B-grade stand-up comic delivery), it's the kind of thing I'd expect some demented street-corner soap-box ranter to be spewing, not something I'd expect to hear in a big first-world church. Do you think that kind of offensive and bat-shit-crazy stuff was regular fair at that church?

If the Republicans us this, it will be to divide the Democrat Party. The Obama team will never be able to re-unite the Party; they are sunk this time around. MoveOn.org has torpedoed this nomination process and this guy is among the type of people that makes up Obama's faction of the Party.

This is a "staged performance". How often does a Church of Christ invite a Catholic Priest to give a sermon in their church?

It's to have a White equally nuts as the black Reverend Wright. The apology is something Clinton should openly reject.

1. Obama was NOT in the congregation during that rant by Father Pflager. Check his travel schedule.

2. Obama denounced it immediately and said this is not any part of his thinking or that of his campaign.

3. He credited this church with leading him to Jesus Christ and has said many times over he doesn't agree with the rants that have been potroayed by Rev. Wright or Father Pflager.

4. Have any of you bothered to find out how many of that congregation are white? You might be in for a shock.

5. Those of you who don't have any religious affiliation or attend church, it might surprise you to know that a whole lot of churches invite pastors of another faith to guest in their pulpits. I've seen it in Baptist, Methodist, Church of Christ and even Jewish synagogues.

6. Finally, Obama didn't utter those words so maybe we all better start playing the "guilt by association" card.

Doesn't matter that Obama was not there. he has already heaped great praise on both Otis Moss and Michael Phleger. He is inseparably tied to them and their twisted views.

Anyone who does not believe that Barack Obama is exactly the same as they are, is a deluded fool.

Jack

Well, in that case, since you elign yourself with Bush, McCain, Rumsfeld, Cheney et al,that makes you equally deluded. You bought in to invading Iraq over non existent WMD. nuclear threats and moshroom clouds. What does that say about you?

communities. let em rant all they want, they are not a threat to me or you. they have thier own demons, some churches 'wish death' upon democrats and liberals.

can you back up your last statement? I dont see anything valid from what i have heard or read on Obama, nor by any of his words or legislation. an impressive list of people, let alone the majority of the Dems, support Obama, he's vetted enough for me.

do you really believe Obama and his cousins are gonna come a' gunnin' fer us? McCain's flavor of preacher man gives me heartburn too, but i dont think McCain is going to light up Israel or Iran, for the sake of the 144,000. does that also make me a deluded fool?

are there any policies Obama is promoting that bother you, or is it only the people he knows. and say things that give you heartburn?

That is one serious nut jub. It's not a pulpit he should be sharing, it's a padded cell.

shirley:

Well, in that case, since you elign yourself with Bush, McCain, Rumsfeld, Cheney et al,that makes you equally deluded. You bought in to invading Iraq over non existent WMD. nuclear threats and moshroom clouds. What does that say about you?

I do not,"Align my self with Mccain," but,as a long time Church goer I would never step foot in a Church that preaches hate the way this Church does.

You can talk all you want about how,"Obama was not there!" Makes no differenece if he was not there that particular time.

He sat in the Church for 20 years,He listened to that hate, and he knows full well what those Ministers were saying!

Do not tell me he did not know.Church goers are the most gossipy people in the world and when a Minister preaches like this they all know it! The fact that those behind the Ministers erupted in shouts, laughter and applause exposes just what is going on.

Also,I noticed my post below by Investigative Reporters were given short shrift. I have said from the beginning this man came up in the Chicago corruption,somone is backing him, Big Time!

If Obama is elected due to Dean wanting a puppet of his own in the Whitehouse we will be going from the Frying pan to the fire.

RICK,WE DO NOT HAVE TO BACK UP ANYTHING! Obama sat in that Church. He got earmarks for that Church. He listened to all that crap. You do not sit there unless you agree.

I know, I have left Churches that I did not agree with. One trip was all I needed. For one thing,that screeching,laughing and applauding is appalling. Especially when he was putting down a Candidate. You guys would explode all over if anyone talked about Obama that way!

You and Shirley can go on defending this man. His nest has been soiled by those he calls friends and Supporters!

"I have said from the beginning this man came up in the Chicago corruption,somone is backing him, Big Time!

If Obama is elected due to Dean wanting a puppet of his own in the Whitehouse we will be going from the Frying pan to the fire."

Ah, yes, you've continurally implied that Obama is tied to Chicago corruption but offer no proof whatsoever. "Big Time" backers? Aren't you confusing him with Hillary? Open secrets says otherwise as do FEC reports. Perhaps you missed the article stating that the FEC has been overwhelmed by Obama's list of donors. MaryAnne, it's one thing to have an opinion or suspicions but another to state it as fact with no evidence.

Dean has the power to install Obama? Wow! I didn't know that! I didn't know he had that much power. I thought Obama is ahead because he has the most delegates, won the most states,and had the most popular votes. That's interesting.

the Obama supporters [especially on this board] have made against Hagee and McCain.

Seems to me there is some double-standards and hypocrisy at play here.

SG

shirley:

Well, in that case, since you elign yourself with Bush, McCain, Rumsfeld, Cheney et al,that makes you equally deluded. You bought in to invading Iraq over non existent WMD. nuclear threats and moshroom clouds. What does that say about you?

LOL, BIG DEAL! Jack isn't running for President in 2008; the publically RACIST OBAMA is.

SouthernGal:

the Obama supporters [especially on this board] have made against Hagee and McCain.

Seems to me there is some double-standards and hypocrisy at play here.

SG

That's stupid as shit! McCain is not a member of Hagee's church and hasn't spent every Sunday with him for 20 years. McCain didn't stand up and tell the world, "I can no more disown Rev.Wright than I can disown my white grandmother", and McCain has a white grandmother.

You equate acquaintence the same as "worship" and they aren't the same. Obama WORSHIPED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE A WARPED SENSE OF WHAT RELIGION IS AND APPARENTLY HATE MOST OF AMERICA.

Big, big, big difference!!!

you might want to be real careful about saying anything against the Hillary backers since as I understand it many are now backing mr pefect, BHO.

SG