Sadly the movie's great potential is sullied by the fact it's producer (An NBA Basketball Star no less) had to be sued by the U.S. Crew in order for them to be paid, and the Thai Crew who suffered tremendous hardship to bring Herzog's film into being... Has not been paid at all. No one in L.A. will go see this as a result. Too much bad karma and no explaination from the film's creators for the harsh treatment of the crew.

I am not even going to watch it on cable.

If the Producer comes out from under his PR Rock and "Man Ups" to his mistakes then perhaps our industry will give this film it's proper due, and not treat Herzog like Leni Rifienstahl another great German Director with a Bad Producer.

> and not treat Herzog like Leni Rifienstahl another great German Director with a Bad Producer.

That is a fantastically stupid comparison.

You're right! Everyone who worked on Leni's films got paid. Sorry. :)

If you need proof that Leni Riefenstahl was complicit in Nazi atrocities and *did not* just have a bad producer, please read Steven Bach's amazing book Leni: The Life and Work of Leni Riefenstahl. You can also listen to a captivating interview he did with Terry Gross on NPR's Fresh Air on 6/05/07. You should not stake your own reputation defending those not worthy of defense.

to two competing publishers and let them fight over it while he chuckled his way to the bank. Should I stop listening to Beethoven?

Caravaggio was a dueler and brawler who killed at least one man. He is said to have painted himself into some of his pictures in villain roles. But I suppose I shouldn't be looking at them.

Byron was guilty of seduction and betrayal, serial adultery, domestic violence, and (probably) incest. I shall piously burn my copies of his works.

You can do whatever you want.If you feel like sanctioning injustice with your money well go right ahead. If folks want to quibble about the level of injustice that's ok with me too. The differance between the artists you cite and Herzog is that herzog's movie is the the theaters now and the others are long dead. I sleep ok at night with the choices I make regarding the money I spend for "Art" and "Entertainment" and i don't have to be a hypocrite when it comes to the differance. Have fun...

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If you need proof that Leni Riefenstahl was complicit in Nazi atrocities and *did not* just have a bad producer, please read Steven Bach's amazing book Leni: The Life and Work of Leni Riefenstahl. You can also listen to a captivating interview he did with Terry Gross on NPR's Fresh Air on 6/05/07. You should not stake your own reputation defending those not worthy of defense.

I don't think there's any question that Riefenstahl was a true believer in the National Socialist cause...but then again, so were most adult Germans in the 1930s. I think, her protestations aside, that she knew full well that she was creating propaganda for the regime.

That still doesn't make her 'complicit' in 'atrocities.' Her last work during the Nazi era was filmed in 1936: long before any of the atrocities of the war years were committed.

So, in the end, I'm left with the phrase, 'so what?' Her art speaks for itself, and needs no moralizing from limp-wristed pansies.

Spoken with true Keyboard bravado. I don't know how you morally justify "Triumph of the Will." as art and by the way Nazi Atrocities began almost the moment Hitler seized power in 1933. What Herr Plantary Eulogy is really mad at is the fact he supports a film whose principle creators behaved horribly towards those who actually put the film together and without who this film or any film for that matter would have never been made. Herr Eulogy can parse his artistic appreciation anyway he wants as far as I am concerned. It still does not take away the simple fact that his apprecation of art overrides any moral and ethical standard for decent human behaviour.

if only Hilter was not a failed artist himself. LOL Or Herr Eulogy... was he??? LOL