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Yearning for Evidence
by PluralFamily


I just love this kind of article that intended to stir emotion rather than convey facts and inform, but rather have an obvious bias with the intent to slander and inflame. We in the polygamist communities are just as apposed to any form of abuse and it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But the State of Texas has not found so much as a shred of evidence of any kind of abuse, and the State has clearly over stepped it authority, and failed to investigate but rather came with the intent of taking all the children before they ever enter the YFZ Ranch, and of course you failed to point out that the so called call by the 16-year-old girl to the abuse hotline was a hoax to start with, and how does one so called complaint extend to everyone?

Its bias reporting like this and the unjust Laws that have created the very problem that we are now dealing with, those that wish to practice there faith have been forced under ground, and by denying these plural wives there rightful place in society, is abuse in and of itself that is]]has been imposed by society by making second class citizen of these women.

PluralFamily

Re: Yearning for Evidence
by qbe9584

And here I thought it was having young women who can't stand up for their own interests, a social group that treats wives as inheritable property, or as collectible possessions that was making them second class citizens. But you found it out as the reporting. Good catch.

I'm against multiple marriage axiomatically. The only polygamists that I have ever known that I respected were also polyandrists. Having a social contract where a guy an obtain many wives, but the wives can't obtain many husbands is one of core of the innequities in my mind.

Re: Yearning for Evidence
by patron002

Women as young as 14 were married and had children that were years old. That is abuse, you cannot have sex with minors that is considered abuse. I will agree with you that everything the gov't did to prove that the FLDS was breaking the law, was based on faulty legal ground, spitting on the constitution, and most of all, the faulty logic that because one person or even multiple peopele were abused that they all were. The gov't will likely lose this case if the judge has a conscience for rights at all.

Re: Yearning for Evidence
by Doc Holliday
"The only polygamists that I have ever known that I respected were also polyandrists."

It always amazes me how people will preach tolerance when it is the woman who is yielding the power.

This is the same attitude that gives greater social acceptance in society for dominatrices, then for male dominates. Dominates are sick, cruel, exploitive a**holes. Meanwhile, society accepts that it okay for a women to treat a man the same way.

Respect does not arise from the form of religion or marriage a person practices, (I know a few polyandrists in the polyamorous culture). It arises from the person themselves. And, if one decides to respect people based on the form of marriage they are involved in, one is completely misguided.
Re: Yearning for Evidence
by qbe9584
One of my problems with multiple marriage is that there is usually a contract that stipulates only one partner gets to marry multiply, usually on religious grounds. That is inherently unequal. The multiple marriages at the compound were not the free willed expression of a group of consenting adults, it was a clique of older guys collecting wives like Hot Wheels cars. The reason I could respect the group marriage I described was that he could get a new wife, but she could get a new husband: consenting adults with equitable rules.
Re: Yearning for Evidence
by Doc Holliday
" The reason I could respect the group marriage I described was that he could get a new wife, but she could get a new husband: consenting adults with equitable rules."

I am not sure where "it" says that a marriage must "equal." I don't think the FLDS really cares what others think about their marital arrangements.

Respectability arises from an individual, rather than from a form of religion...
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