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America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by KYJurisDoctor
... SHAMEFUL and appalling!
Re: America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by thewolf05827

Yep.

The ethnocentrism-- nay, the outright, abject barbarism-- of much of the rest of the world, however, is something to which we need to be "culturally sensitive" and "understand in its context."

Hilarious.

Re: America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by Richmond

The really appalling thing that left and right assume the same thing about America: it is a white Protestant phenomenon. The left thinks this must be overturned. The right thinks it must be affirmed.

Neither is correct regarding the underlying assumption.

Once you recognize that you could be an American and live in Navajoland in southern Utah or on the shores of Puerto Rico or Hawaii or speak a wacky kind of French in Louisiana you don't worry about the white-ness.

I wish the left would give it up. I understand the right's pre-occupation with race and culture. But the left? Stop acting like this is 1865 or 1965.

And start by telling Obama.

Re: America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by qbokie
Agree. I believe race relations have improved more than most will acknowledge. I'm afraid much damage has been done by Obama et al when the scream "racism" if you don't support or disagree with Obama. People DON'T want to hear that.And, they sure don't appreciate being stereotyped! I don't support Obama. I'm not racist. I just don't like the guy, his associates, his arrogance, his inexperience, etc. But, because I don't support him, I've been called: feminazi, neo nazi (didn't get that one!), undereducated, white, poor, working class, hormonal female, old woman, granny... Now, I'm 57; I don't think that's old. Racist? If people only new my cultural background, they'd know they WRONG on that one. I'm female; true. Undereducated--no--have two advanced degrees. Poor--no--not wealthy or "rollin in the dough" but not poor. Nazi of any kind--no! In fact, there's a very fine line between Obama and Fascism. But, you can't tell Obama supporters that. They don't care; they say they'll vote for inexperience because he gives a great speech. We're in trouble if he wins.
Re: America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by chrisbz
I hear folks claim they are being called racist for not supporting Obama a whole lot more than I hear Obama supporters actually charge others as being racist for not supporting him.
Re: America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by Ridry

Actually, I know someone who that happened too in their office... I was kind of shocked. I've never been called anything for supporting Hillary (even from my Republican family).

It DOES happen though. I've also heard of people called sexist for not voting for Clinton, so I don't entirely blame the Obama crew for this ridiculousness.

I could actually see someone calling a Clinton democrat a racist for not voting for Obama... I mean, I personally like McCain better than Obama, but if you look at the platforms there is no choice. If Clinton loses (when Clinton loses) I'm voting Obama, plain and simple. There are things I don't like about him (his race isn't one of them), but it doesn't matter what I personally think of him or McCain. He'd take the country in far more right direction.

Any anti-Bush, pro-Clinton voter who is voting for McCain should probably think about why they are doing it... I didn't like Kerry either, but I didn't want a second Bush term and I don't want a third.

That being said, if someone honestly prefers McCain and his platform (or Hil and hers) over Obama and his platform... it's sort of ridiculous to call someone a racist over it.

Anyways, the point of all this is that I think there is a reason to be disturbed by the polls that say Clinton supporters would vote McCain.

Re: America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by thewolf05827
I feel it only fair to warn you, friend, that you are in some danger of being reasonable.
Re: America's Ethocentrism is both ...
by chrisbz
@Ridry

Nice post. Hillary supporters that threaten to vote for McCain are largely the product of identity politics gone wild. I suspect if the delegate count was reversed we'd hear much the same from the less enlightened of the Obama supporters.

Then start paying attention to the
by Gatewood
nature of the fray posts that most of your fellow Obamacrats are presenting.
Re: Then start paying attention to the
by chrisbz
I'm not going to vouch for every "Obamacrat's" opinion, but I can say there are plenty name calling and silly, non-reasonable arguments to go around on both sides.

We need to drop the bickering and name calling and come together as a party to defeat the GOP.

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