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Votes for Obama
by HILLARY OR VOTE REP
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It is apparent that Obama's comments that he made in San FransIco hold true throughout the US. Obama has played dirty throughout his political career in Illinous. He has had a large black voter block which has carried over in most states throughout this primary.

However, last night WV showed that he can not carry the voter block and he needs that to win at the end when it really matters. I think Obama's inexperience is going to really hurt him against McCain. Unless he thinks Clinton or Edwards is going to get him that voter block. Hillary should play sick from June 3 - Nov 30th. I don't think people will vote for Obama even if he chooses either of these people as his running mate. Mich and Florida will more than likely go to McCain, Obama refused to count them last month. He would want them counted if he was in Clinton's roll and they probly would be counted in fear of hurting the black voter block. But, as long as Obama refused to count these 2 states Hillary supporters like myself say - It's like playing the old maid card game without the old maid. Now not going to West Virginia adds to his "elite title" which angers even more people.

So, now that we know how Obama really feels about white Americans who are not wealthy. And we understand how these "superdelegates" do not want to do anything to lose thier voting blocks. And how the Democrates in charge feel they should go with Obama because they do not want to lose the Black votes back to the Rep.

The fact is this-The Democrates are willing to give up 4 years in the white house to McCain in order to hold those black votes. But - nobody wants to mention that because that would be racist. Pretty much Obama can run around naked and praise Hamas and sneak off to Canada for another meeting and he would still the Democratic Nominee.

DO YOUSELVES A FAVOR VOTE JOHN MCCAIN IN NOVEMBER FOR THE SAFTEY OF OUR COUNTRY.

Re: Votes for Obama
by redwhite&blue
I couldn't have said it better myself!
Re: Votes for Obama
by pigbodine
Misspellings included?
Re: Votes for Obama
by entj4sure

Yeah, let's vote for McCain, lets vote for

1. More war! Maybe even Iran!

2. Privatized Social Security!

3. Continuing tax breaks for the very wealthy!

4. No Universal Health Care!

5. More outsourcing of American jobs!

Rally round and all sing together...bomb, bomb, Iran...

Aren't we such smart Americans! NOT!

Re: Votes for Obama
by redwhite&blue

Yeah, let’s vote for Obama, let’s vote for:

  1. Taking more of my money and giving it to a bunch of fruits and tree hugging nuts who are too damn lazy to get a job!
  2. Inviting terrorists to come visit the U.S., hell, maybe he can pick his buddy Bill Ayres as VP.
  3. HOPE HOPE HOPE HOPE HOPE, I hope somebody gives me some money so I don’t have to get a job.
  4. Hell you don’t need anything else, the guy is a friggin American Hating, Terrorist loving, pinky sticking out while having a spot of tea, spineless hack who will do nothing, except maybe make it a requirement to teach the Koran in our schools!

From a speech the Hero gave:

From a speech made by Capt. John S. McCain, USN, (Ret) who represents Arizona in the U.S. Senate:

As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room. This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.

One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.

Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School. Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967.

Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country-and our military-provide for people who want to work and want to succeed. As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing. Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.

Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance. I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.

One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it. That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours. Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could.

The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room. As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag.

He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to pledge allegiance to our flag and our country.

So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Your terrorist wont even put his terrorist hand over his heart when they play the National Anthem

Re: Votes for Obama
by northwoods

Translation:

Uneducated, poor, elderly hillbillies won't vote fer no cullerds.

That's why Barak Obama didn't waste his time there.

Check out West Virginia's motto:

West Virginia--Marching Proudly into the 1950's!

Re: Votes for Obama
by northwoods

I know what let's us do! Let's us make it a constitutional requirement that all future presidents must be former prisoners of war!

What better training for the presidency could there be than to be starved, beaten, and isolated for five years?

Would that make you happy?

Re: Votes for Obama
by redwhite&blue

The real Obama record

By J.B. Williams
web posted March 3, 2008

Young voters swoon at his feet like prepubescent girls at a Beatles concert. Religious charlatans like Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan are pimping for him from the pulpit. Old guards of the American Socialist movement like Teddy Kennedy, have latched on to his Elvis-like charisma and even mass media moguls like Oprah Winfrey and the liberal lame stream press have strapped on a harness to pull the Obama campaign wagon to historic Black Power victory.

But who is Barack Hussein Obama? What is his real record? What does he really believe in? What are his past accomplishments and his qualifications for the most powerful elected office in the world? What does he mean by this enigmatic thing called "change?"

His supporters can tell you all about his "charisma," his promise of "hope," the need for "change" and their heartfelt belief that if Obama becomes president, the world will be all we had dreamed it could be. They will gleefully regurgitate all of his campaign talking points as if they know him personally and thought them all up on their own.

But what they can't tell you is who the man is, what he has ever done in the past, what makes him qualified to be scout troop master, what kind of change he has in mind or why they believe he is capable of changing anything…

When asked why they support Obama, the answers range from "I have waited all my life to cast a vote for the first black president," to "His complete lack of leadership experience makes him the perfect agent of change." Of course, he's not black and we seldom hire the most inexperienced individual for the most critical position, even with affirmative action in play. But hey, we're making history here! Don't let the facts get in your way.

FactCheck and OnTheIssues are working overtime to keep up with all the Obama campaign rhetoric. But apparently, Obama supporters never bother to check the facts when it comes to their candidate of hope and change.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the fact is; beyond charismatic, Barack Hussein Obama is almost none of the things he claims to be.

Time for the real Barack Obama record…

  • According to Obama, he rejects campaign funding from "lobbyists," "Political Action Committees" and "bundlers" who bundle individual contributions into blind block contributions.

But according to FactCheck, he does accept "bundled" contributions from "lobbyist groups" as well as individual campaign contributions from the spouses of well-known Washington lobbyists. He also receives tons of "bundled" funds from labor unions and Democrat 527 organizations.

When pressed on the issue, (on rare occasion), he admits "Money is the original sin in politics and I am not sinless" and states "Lobbyist influence comes from access, not money." In short, Obama is funded by the same lobbyists and special interest groups as all other Democrats. He's just slicker about covering the money trail.

  • According to Obama and CAF, who gives him a 100% rating, indicating a strong position for energy independence, Obama will solve the problem of dependence on foreign oil and skyrocketing gas prices.

But according to OnTheIssues, Obama voted to defund U.S. domestic oil exploration, voted to ban U.S. drilling in ANWR and block all efforts to increase U.S. refining capacity, voted to force Americans to reduce their oil consumption by 40% by 2025 instead of the 5% supported by the balance of congress, voted to force Detroit to build more hybrids, voted to burn more ethanol (food) and factor the Global Warming Scam into all national energy policies. Obama takes the most liberal position in congress on energy and keeps the U.S. dependent upon foreign oil as a result.

  • According to his campaign website, Obama is a "Child Advocate" - "Barack Obama is a committed advocate for children, - and he will protect children from violence and neglect."

However, Obama has been an ardent opponent of every child's fundamental right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The National Right to Life Association gives him a perfect zero rating, indicating an unwavering support for a woman's right to kill. He voted against every child's right to life at every opportunity, including voting against the ban on the heinous act of Partial Birth Abortion. He has staked out the most extreme left position available against children. He believes strongly in a woman's right to kill her young, but not in a woman's right to spend household income on food rather than health insurance.

  • Obama claims to oppose all forms of racism, including "racial profiling" (aka criminal and terror profiling).

But he has a strong record of supporting affirmative action, which provides special advantage to specific citizens over all other citizens, strictly on the basis of race. He also supports treating drug dealing as a "minimum wage problem" and not a criminal activity, based on drug trafficking being prevalent in black communities.

  • Obama claims strength in Foreign Policy, National Security and the advancement of Democracy around the globe.

But he opens his campaign rhetoric with this statement, "When I am this party's nominee, my opponent will not be able to say that I voted for the war in Iraq," a post 9/11 foreign policy initiative supported overwhelmingly by both parties in both houses of congress as a vital matter of both national security and the advancement of democracy in parts of the world important to America's strategic interests.

Further, he "didn't vote for war in Iraq" because he was not a member of Congress when that vote took place, nor did he have access to the intelligence reports over twelve years beginning in 1991, that caused the vast majority of Congress and his opponent Hillary Clinton, to support deposing the Hussein regime and liberate, not invade, the Iraqi people.

Today Obama is lashing back at attacks from John McCain regarding Iraq, by stating for his blindly ill-informed followers that "Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until after George Bush invaded Iraq." This is of course an untrue statement. Al Qaeda indeed had cells operating in Iraq long before congress authorized the deposing of Hussein in 2003. In fact, Al Qaeda had cells inside Iraq before 9/11/01 and Hussein government officials had traveled from Iraq to Afghanistan for the sole purpose of seeking common anti-western interests with Al Qaeda as far back as 1996, all of which has been reported widely and recorded even in the 9/11 Commission Report that Obama often quotes on other matters.

Obama's first promise of change comes in the form of a call for retreat and defeat in Iraq, which every international expert can tell you will destabilize Iraq's current progress towards secure democratic reform, an idea Obama claims to hold dear, but won't support.

He wants to bring our troops home immediately, but in defeat, not victory.

He wants to launch a new era of dialogue and cooperation with the worlds most brutal and committed enemies of the west in North Korea, Iran, and China, with folks like Chavez and Castro. He says that "China is our competitor, not our enemy," even as Chinese spies are being brought to justice for infiltrating the most secret of U.S. national security agencies.

But he wants a U.S. Military enforced "no fly zone" in Africa, where the ancestors of his radical Muslim father live in tyranny, oppressed by African war lords and corrupt African politicians, not American slave traders.

He talks about a more secure and sovereign America as he pushes to erase U.S. borders, legalize illegal migration - including with full voting rights for illegals, and calls for "increased tax-payer investment in our relationship with Mexico" while asking for "$50B annually to strengthen weak states at risk of collapse," not American states, third world dictatorships.

Obama is not only completely unqualified to be Commander-in-Chief, he would be the most dangerous choice available in 2008.

Do I need to keep going with the real Obama record of leadership and change? This candidate is nothing but charismatic, with an uncanny ability to sell garbage to unsuspecting young voters who have yet to make their first car payment, much less figure out what's best for America.

If you are unable to recognize the pattern of faulty logic and flat out lies that make up the Obama campaign, listing more examples won't help you. But maybe what kind of change he has in mind will get your attention…

Obama's Future for America

Like his political heroes and great agents of change Saul Alinsky and Karl Marx, Obama is a charismatic rebel rouser with an abstract but eloquent Farrakhan styled cadence in his public delivery. But like his heroes, his goods must be sold as something other than what they really are, because even the most ill-formed American voter will not knowing support Democratic Socialism under its official name.

So instead of calling it socialized medicine, we call it universal health care. It's the same thing, but one sounds better than the other, even to college kids.

Some of Obama's words can be taken to heart though… just not his campaign words.

Candidate Obama says he opposes gay marriage and supports same-sex unions. – But Senator Obama said – "I opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. It should be repealed and I will vote for its repeal on the Senate floor. I will also oppose any proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban gays and lesbians from marrying."

"My parents shared not only an improbable love; they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation. They would give me an African name, Barack, or blessed, believing that in a tolerant America your name is no barrier to success." – Here, he's actually defending his given middle name, Hussein, not his first name "blessed."

"Today we are engaged in a deadly global struggle for those who would intimidate, torture, and murder people for exercising the most basic freedoms. If we are to win this struggle and spread those freedoms, we must keep our own moral compass pointed in a true direction." – Yet he supports the most immoral social policies on earth, abortion, sexual perversion, socialism and affirmative action against all people not of color, and opposes the struggle for freedom and democracy in Iraq.

About the struggle for democracy in Iraq, Obama says – "We're not going to baby sit a civil war."

Wife Michelle Obama is right when she say's – "Barack will not allow Americans to go back to life as usual." Based on Obama's positions on countless issues, I'd say life in America will never be the same again…

If Obama followers can stop fainting at his Elvis-like pep rallies long enough to actually research the man, his lack of accomplishment and experience, his insanely naïve policy platform and his Marxist ideas of change for America, Barack won't continue to run away with the Democrat nomination, even against a weak opponent like Hillary Clinton.

For all of Hillary's obvious faults, she's not Barack Obama and my hope is that Obama fans take a deep breath and research their candidate before they make an error in judgment that every American will live to regret. Marx and Alinsky had hope for change too… Is this the change Obama supporters really have in mind?

For heaven sake - Even Rosanne Barr gets this one right!

"When I fly in an airplane I want the pilot with the most experience, not the one who can inspire hope in me that I get to where I am going. When I pay my taxes, I want the person filing them to be experienced, not the new person who inspires hope in me that he can do the job. When I hire someone to fix my washing machine, I want the tried and true experienced person, not the one who inspires me to hope that he can fix it. When I go to the doctor I do not want to get the one who inspires hope in me that s/he can cure what's wrong, but the one who knows what the hell to do the minute I call. It's not really the job of a public servant to inspire, but to get the job that the people demand done. The democrats think that if they have hope and are inspired things will get better, but they actually won't. When Oprah makes her employees sign her fifty page non-disclosure statement, she doesn't "hope" they can't break it, she pays teams of experienced lawyers to MAKE SURE they can't break it, or be sued in an experienced court by an experienced judge."

© 2008 J.B. Williams

Re: Votes for Obama
by KHpoliticalinnuendohere

RW&B,

Your name represents the colors of the country I love, but your rational doesn't. According to you:

  1. Taking more of my money and giving it to a bunch of fruits and tree hugging nuts who are too damn lazy to get a job!
  2. Inviting terrorists to come visit the U.S., hell, maybe he can pick his buddy Bill Ayres as VP.
  3. HOPE HOPE HOPE HOPE HOPE, I hope somebody gives me some money so I don’t have to get a job.
  4. Hell you don’t need anything else, the guy is a friggin American Hating, Terrorist loving, pinky sticking out while having a spot of tea, spineless hack who will do nothing, except maybe make it a requirement to teach the Koran in our schools!

1. What's McCain going to do with your money? Unless you're part of the 1% wealthiest, don't expect to be getting any handouts. And even if he extends tax cuts, they are leading to our NATION being indebted to foreigners as we have an international tab going because of the fiscal irresponsibility of Bush cuts. McCain doesn't know shit about the economy, so he's entrusting it to "experts" like Carly Fiorina (the women who nearly bankrupted HP) and is living her jobless high-life because of the attitude towards money that your GOP buddies have convinced you its for your best interest (hint: it isn't). There are plenty of lazy people here and abroad, but guess what, they're at both ends of the wealth spectrum. McCain will continue robbing the middle (maybe for "a hundred years").

2. He won't pick Ayer, they are coworkers by trade, not best buddies by choice. And while Ayer's "terrorist" case was thrown out, weren't there two Weatherman who were actually found guilty and were later pardoned. Gosh! Which president pardoned them, oh yeah, Clinton. And geez, of course Obama will invite terrorists here, they are plenty than can be argued have a right to come back. Like the complicit with 9/11 Saudi buddies of Bush, who he rushed out on a special carrier before anyone even knew what 9/11 was all about. Weren't they in some way related to Bin Laden? Maybe McCain will have a reunion party for all of them. In fact, McCain seems pretty reluctant to deviate at all from the major failings of Bush, do you think that will include maintaining that friendship with the wealthy Saudis, the countrymen of the majority of terrorists who smashed into the World Trade? And you're right, there are just so many terrorists (growing up and being ever so successfully recruited in the fertile, lawless) Iraq (that Bush has created). Of course, Obama has only open said, and resaid, and resaid that his plan is to root out the head of the snake in Pakistan, instead of bowing down to their negotiations with the two-timer, Musharef as Bush has (and McCain will).

3. You better hope hope hope hope that McCain doesn't get his way with incentivizing education post military enlistment. From the looks of it, you need some serious education if you're going to hold down a good job, redwhite&brushclearer. So, maybe you should enlist. With the plan Obama supports, you'll have money to pay for the education you so badly need after a short stint. McCain will give you much less money for a service that is four times as long.

4. America hating - that would be his reverand according to a 2-minute soundbite gleaned from 25 years of preaching, and only because I have to be so clear with you, you don't even have the option of voting for the Rev in the election, so don't misconstrue him for Obama.

Terrorist loving - I know he doesn't "love" Ayer, and he isn't a muslim, so this is just you spouting off what you want to hear about a guy you have pre-judged. Teaching the Koran? I highly doubt it, but really it's a decent idea. Part of our utter failure in Iraq was our lack of knowledge of the culture. Gosh, maybe if we got schoolchildren reading from diverse sources (instead of sweating over unhelpful assessment), we would raise a generation that can deal with other countries and peoples. I would think Obama's harder stance on aiming our military might at terrorist leaders in Pakistan instead of oil-fields in Iraq would be the final evidence to prove you wrong on that point.

I guess I can't refute what he does with his pinky while drinking tea - but I too have to have the ability to level irrefutable (and hopelessly irrelevant) accusations about others.

When redwhite&blue eats hotdogs, he likes to sit on his thumb.

Spineless hack - he's definately a vertebrate (which is something you're children MIGHT get to learn, if Bush's deplorable NCLB action gets the heave-ho, something that McCain, AGAIN, won't do). There's just so much stuff that McCain will continue riding out, despite all the faults, when obviously we need some change.

Re: Votes for Obama
by entj4sure

Poor redwhite&blue, you Republicans are getting your asses kicked. Three seats in Congress lost now to Democrats, and that was after they tried linking the Democrat candidate to Obama by showing the Rev. Wright clips. That was after they tried to imply that Obama was too extreme for these deeply southern states. What a hoot!

Go ahead and post all that crap that you want, IT ISN'T WORKING, and the Republicans are TOAST.

Re: Votes for Obama
by tubbs
  1. Taking more of my money and giving it to a bunch of fruits and tree hugging nuts who are too damn lazy to get a job!

By taking more of my money and giving it to fruits and tree hugging nuts, do you mean Bear Stearns, farmers, or some other form of corporate welfare?

Re: Votes for Obama
by Angstrom

OH MY GOD, you mean Obama is pro-choice, anti-war and supports affirmative action? How has he kept such bombshells secret all this time????

Oh, wait a minute. He hasn't. Those are standard Democratic positions that you can probably find on his web site.

Just how retarded are you?

Re: Votes for Obama
by NightSwimmer

Red neck

White socks &

Blue Ribbon Beer!

Re: Votes for Obama
by rocky346858

YOU TALK ABOUT THE HIIBILLY'S

OD CAN NOT WIN CALIFORNIA AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS THERE.

Re: Votes for Obama
by maxpractical
..And the TIRED Mich and Fla arguments don't mean crap. EVERYONE
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