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Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by Jason M. Bryant

Geraldine Ferraro has said that she thinks Obama has been "terribly sexist." That hasn't been my impression at all, but I've seen similar comments from some Clinton supporters lately. I've mainly read these quotes on "how will they unify the party" articles on news sites.

So if anyone could elaborate on why some women feel this way, I would very much appreciate it. I would like to clarify that I'm not talking about the media's treatment of Obama or Clinton, I mean Obama himself. Has he done anything with Clinton that he would not have done with a male competitor? Has he done anything that McCain would not do in regards to Clinton in the general election?

Thanks

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by AllThatJazz

It's just more sour grapes from Hillary fans. Of course, if Hillary ever called a man "sweetie", they wouldn't have a problem with that.

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by Jason M. Bryant
AllThatJazz:

It's just more sour grapes from Hillary fans.

That was my initial impression, but I wanted to hear another point of view. My first impression isn't always right, so if someone has some extra insight, I'd like to hear it.

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by BLACKMOSES
Chances are that a seventy two year old man(McCain) has probably called afew women "sweetie" and probably still does.
Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by AllThatJazz

McCain called his wife a c**t in public. But he has no temper. Not at all.

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by Thevail

I'm curious as well. I don't think, other than the casual "sweetie" remark, which he immediately apologized for, that I've ever heard him say or seen him do anything sexist.

I've seen some ofwhat might be sexist bias in the media occassionally. But it 's hard to tell how much of that may actually be part and parcel of the media's long rocky relationahip with the Clinton's in general.

And there are some sexist and/or racist supporters on either side, but that's sort of mutual.

And honestly, I'm just not seeing ANY EVIDENCE that Obama himself is sexist at all.

Nor, I think, are the vast majority of his supporters sexist, and more than the vast majority of Hillary's supporters are racists.

Is this just the particular direction that the frustration is showing amongst dissappointed Clinton supporters? I understand the frustration, who wouldn't be frustrated if your candidate's losing? But I fail to see that Obama did anything wrong.

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by Thevail

Nor, I think, are the vast majority of his supporters sexist, and more than the vast majority of Hillary's supporters are racists

Holy crud, sorry typo..

,any more than the vast majority of Hillary's supporters are racists.

Jeez, wow, the difference a single letter can make.

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by Thevail

I guess from the sheer overwhelming amount of evidence... he's not at all sexist.

Go Obama '08

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by ChristineATL
I guess some women are very sensitive to such word as "sweetie." I'm not. In Britain, complete strangers called people "Dear" and 'Luv" all the time. I, too, can't figure out where this sexism accusation comes from.
Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by Jason M. Bryant

I just saw an interview with Geraldine Ferraro where she was asked for specifics. She talked about Clinton's story about shooting behind her Grandfather's shed. Obama said that was a pander and Clinton was making herself out to be Annie Oakley. Ferraro thinks that was sexist.

I don't see that at all. Clinton has a strong record for gun control. If she'd been a man and told that story, the only thing that would have happened differently is that Obama would have said "Billy the Kid" instead of "Annie Oakley". Male politicians accuse each other of pandering and make belittling comments all the time. I think he treated Clinton the same way he would have treated a male candidate.

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by NightSwimmer

Sympathy for perceived mistreatment by the media is Hillary's most potent weapon for increasing voter turnout among her older female base. She knows this and she's playing it for all it's worth.

Someone in the Democratic Party leadership should ask Geraldine Ferraro to just shut up and go away. She has never been anything but an embarrassment to the Party. She was reprimanded by the House Ethics Committee for the scandal that she brought to Walter Mondale's failed 1984 Presidential campaign.

Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by pigbodine
Just think of the reaction that Kerry got in his camis and hat not quite breaking the surface of his helmet hair. There was more than a few remarks questioning his manhood that week.
Re: Question about the perception of Obama as sexist
by Thevail
I lived in Tennessee for a long time, and people call each other, sweetie, honey. and sugar all the time. I mean like your grocery store clerk, or waitress, or dentist would call you that.
Are Hillary supporters demanding appeasement??
by Thevail

Or war reparations.

Somehow they seem to think that its unfair that someone other than their candidate won.

And many of them are being really mean and unpleasant about it, as if coming in second was like a footrace and you get the silver medal.

But I think I see politics more as boxing..there is no second place, just win or lose.

And yet, I keep hearing these wierd threats...

"Well you better be nice to us or we'll just vote McCain..so there!"

"He can't win without us, and we're NEVER voting for him, so you better just vote for HER if you want a chance to win."

What in the heck do they want? And why on earth do they expect to get whatever it is? Why are they not holding Hillary Clinton responsible for letting them down?

And what makes it seem Ok to them, to either sanction the stealing of the nomination For Hillary Clinton by the superdelegates despite the elected delegate count in favor of Obama, or run the entire democratic party into the ground because they're angry?

They would have a fit if SHE had the most elected delegates and Obama got the nomination because the superdelegates decided that she was "unelectable". OMG that would be SO SEXIST. But it's OK for their candidate to say Obama is "unelectable"? And somehow that's not SO RACIST?

I just can't seem to get anything but angry incoherent rants out of any Clinton supporters on this. I truly don't undertand their thinking on this issue, and while I am unlikely to suddenly change my opinion on my candidate, I'd certainly like to at least understand theirs.

Re: Are Hillary supporters demanding appeasement??
by NightSwimmer

I have noticed that there are basically two criteria by which people make their decision to vote for a particular candidate:

1. Rational comparison of the relative merits of the candidates.

2. Emotional attachment to the candidate of choice.

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