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Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by KrustyKasbah
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Seems that everyone has forgotten that a key Democratic state is having a priimary on Tuesday and that isn't Kentucky.

Did we all forget about Oregon? Or do the Clinton backers just ignore it because she is way behind in the polls there? Although the state should be won by the Democratic candidate in November, recent Rasmussen polling has Obama leading McCain by about 10 points, while Clinton is slightly behind (basically tied) McCain.

The shame of the election has been the minute breakdown of groups in exit polling. The divisions are silly. The difference between Oregon and Kentucky, based on demographics, is not that different, but the results Tuesday will be.

Demographics Oregon Kentucky

> 65 years 13% 13%

Female 50.3 51

White 90.5 90.2

Black 1.9 7.5

Median Income 42,568 37,046

Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by Jason M. Bryant

I've seen Oregon mentioned a fair number of times, but you are right that it is mentioned less. There just isn't as much drama there. Kentucky is interesting because it will probably go to the candidate who will probably lose the nomination. Oregon is going to be won by the guy who is already winning, which isn't very dramatic.

Tuesday itself is getting some focus because that's the day that Obama will get more than half of the Pledged Delegates. So sometimes when Oregon is mentioned it's in the context of the more general win.

Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by pwoxby

Recent polls in Oregon have Barack Obama leading Hillary Clinton by double digits. If those polls hold up at the primary, then three themes being flogged hard by the Clinton campaign will be discredited.

First, the momentum theme goes out the window.

Second, the white voter theme goes out the window.

Third, the electability theme goes out the window.

But the Clinton supporters need not despair. The MI and FL themes are still there to be flogged.

Obama 08!

Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by Thevail

I didn't forget Oregon :)

But then I live next door in Washington.

No one wants to discuss the fact that the reason Hillary is "leading" in swing states is because she really appeals to democratic voters that have a lot of conservative social values.

So places like the middle of Pennsylvania, W. Virginia, and Kentucky which are much more likely to vote for republican are also much more likely to vote for Hillary Clinton.

But liberal states are much more likely to vote Obama.

Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by malandolf13

and all those dems that have more conservitive values will never vote for obama, dont you love that. all of them will go for mccain over obama any day of the week. I love to laugh at all those who think that all those dems will vote for obama if he was the only dem on the ballot are fools.

Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by twinoftwins
Way to back you party, or maybe it is not your party. Either way Obama will be our next President, that you can take to the bank.
Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by malandolf13
I back the morals, experiance and ideas of candidates. i will back hillary first, mccain second. Obama lacks experiance, his morals are questionable, and for all the change he wants he rarely expresses what those ideas are. I follow what the candidates are trying to show themselves to be, and that is what everyone should do. I will not follow a group of people like the dems or the republicans because i am not a lemming.
Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by pwoxby

John McCain has years of experience helping the GOP run the country into the ground. In the last eight years he has agreed with George W. Bush 95% of the time. If you want to know what Barack Obama's proposals and policies are, here is the list:

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Obama 08!

Re: Isn't there another primary on Tuesday?
by Thevail

You know, I'm so tired of this.

Everyone keeps saying that Obama has no plan, he's all rhetoric, or high flying speeches.

It's on his website people. You may not go there often, not being his supporters, but it's all there. And you obviously have access to it. You're on the internet reading this.

He does have a plan..and in fact it's a dang good one, or 19 as the case may be.

His economic plan is good enough that several members of the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission) endorsed him.

McCain on the other hand, really doesn't have a plan at all, and the parts of it he's unveiled are being laughed out of town by almost every reputable economist. Because it's stupid, incomplete, imprecise, and solves NOTHING.

His plan for foreign relations is not just good, it's GREAT. Joe Biden thinks so. The U.N. thinks so. Most other nations think so.

The only people screaming about it, are both hypocrits (our govenment has been suggesting these kind of talks for a while, hell McCain suggested them two years ago), and afraid ( Gosh, I can't imagine what we'd find out about the things blackwater has been up to if we were to TALK to the people they've been dealing with).

And please, anyone reading this, understand that there are TWO groups called HAMAS.

One is a terrorist group, and the other is a democratically elected government.Obama is saying he'll have talks with a democratically elected government.

He didn't like the war the first time. He doesn't like it now. Ok..that's good. He plans to get us out, and carefully, again so far so good.

Is he dead on specific, no, but then he's not commander in chief so he doesn't exactly have access to all the super top secret documents yet, does he?

On top of which, the war on the ground is changing by the day, much less in the next 8 months until inauguration day. So setting out hard and fast rules for EXACTLY what you will do or not do would be bloody stupid unless you can see into the future, since the specific military situations we have now may or may not still exist by then, or they could be much worse.

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