in California and they go to the Pastor and say they want to get married. If the Pastor refuses to conduct the ceremony because they are gay, can they sue for discrimination?

good question

yes

Unamuno:

yes

I think the Pastor and Church will lose. Anti-discrimination laws wil win over the 1st Amendment.

The gay guys are members of the church right? If the pastor accepts them into his congregation and then refuses to marry them because they claim to be homosexual. they would be right to sue because they are members.

No, because it is unreasonable expectation to have the pastor defy the will of God.

Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13 says that a man is not to lie with a man as he does a woman because it is an abomination. We could say that if a man lies with another man as he does a woman it is an unclean act or isn’t keeping him separate from the rest of society. When translated we know that the “lying with the woman” refers to sexual intercourse.

The gays can go to a judge or magistrate to get "married" so no one is stopping them at this time. Californians will pass a Constitutional Ammendment because that is all that can stop the 4 radical illegal judges that defied our Democracies "The Will Of the People" of 4 million voters that voted to make marriage between a man and a woman.

2 men or 2 women lying together is an abomination and IMHO, very perverted and unnatural. I have the right to that opinion and it is the opinion of the vast majority of We The People.

No, because that's not what the ruling was about. It had nothing whatsoever to do with private entities like churchs. It have everything to do with the government denying equal benefits based on sexual orientation.

You wingnuts were in total charge of the US government for 7 years and didn't manage it. What makes you thing it will happen now when your ass is handed to you in November?

AND, it definitely will not happen in CA.

SACRAMENTO—Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is vowing to uphold the California Supreme Court's ruling striking down a state ban on gay marriage.

The Republican governor issued a brief statement shortly after the court announced its decision Thursday.

The governor said, "I respect the court's decision and as governor, I will uphold its ruling."

He also reiterated his previously stated opposition to an anti-gay marriage initiative proposed for the November ballot. That initiative would write a ban on same-sex unions into California's constitution.

Last month, Schwarzenegger told a gathering of gay Republicans that he would fight the initiative.

The governor has twice vetoed legislation that sought to legalize gay marriage, saying the issue should be decided by voters or the courts.

Schwarzenegger did not address the court's ruling in his address to a technology conference in Sacramento Thursday morning.

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The lawsuits will happen. You are naive if you think they will not.

Unamuno:

The gay guys are members of the church right? If the pastor accepts them into his congregation and then refuses to marry them because they claim to be homosexual. they would be right to sue because they are members.

All people are welcome in most churches. That should not imply that the church approves of their sins. It should not force the church to act against its own teachings. But it will.

Under what authority?

Yes I agree and will go so far as to say "it's a plot against the church". You read Mom's post pointing out how this is going to give equal rights to gays on government benefits? I read that and I thought...yeah, that's what you think is going to happen, but that's not what happens..what happens is people start suing chruches that go out of business, and the state makes money off civil unions..women lose their kids and benefits and rich gay men get richer and gayer and nastier than ever.

You're insane! Completely.

Anti-discrimination laws.

The court will treat it as it does when a person is fired from a job because they are gay. The court will use the same arguement Unamuno did.

government

Lets say you and me were going to get married. We join a church and ask the pastor to marry us. He declines. We ask why? He says it's a sin. We say, CA law says it's not. He says..then go to the state, we say..NO..we want to get married HERE. We are members. He refuses. I say we sue. What do you say Mom?