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Obama now against free elections.
by Skeppy2

In a Montana speech today Obama blames Bush for Hamas take-over of Gaza because Bush insisted on free elections in Gaza and Hamas won.

Ergo if Dems don't want Repubs to take over the US Government they will prohibt free elections.

Hmmn

Re: Obama now against free elections.
by RScommon

That's some torturous logic at work. Like mental gymnastics. Did you get head up your ass completely before you posted it?

Junior forces the election, doesn't like the results, takes his ball and goes home. Petulant child comes to mind.

Are YOU for free elections?
by Skeppy2
Are you really willing to see McCain win or will you continue to go along with Dems rigging elections across the nation as in Chicago, NYC, LA, San Fran, Miami, Philly, Newark...?
Re: Are YOU for free elections?
by RScommon

You're all over the map. The Don Quixote of straw men.

Let's talk about elections and puppet governments and Iraqi occupations.

the problem WAS that Hama won
by alameda929

we didn't count on that.

Do you consider that fiasco in the P.A. a
by LT-7

"free and fair election"???

If you do, you are laughable.

Bush was an idiot to push for it. Of course the bigger idiots were former governments of Israel that let the Palestinians get starved into ending up being dependent on Hamas.

We didn't count on Hezbollay
by Skeppy2
winning in Lebanon either but does that make it calling for free and open elections wrong?
Geeze, LT-7 Jimmie Carter certifies
by Skeppy2

those elections. Look at the job he did with Chavez recently.

Re: Do you consider that fiasco in the P.A. a
by RScommon

Of course the bigger idiots were former governments of Israel that let the Palestinians get starved into ending up being dependent on Hamas.

That's a valid point in spite of the fact that Arafat walked away with hundreds of millions in aid dollars.

Re: Do you consider that fiasco in the P.A. a
by jackg

Skeppy is correct, voter fraud is part and parcel of the Democrats election system. That is why Fat Albert (Gore) cried to long and so loud in 2000, and why Kerry kvetched so much they were told the fix was in. Obama comes from one of the most corrupt states in the nation as far as voter fraud is concerned. After all it was Mayor Daly the elder that got us JFK in 1960. So I would say the conjecture is correct Obama is against free and open elections.

jackg

You certainly know your US politics.
by Skeppy2

How about Harry Truman and the Pendergast sp Machine?

Not to forget Tammany Hall.

Thanks for the support

Re: Geeze, LT-7 Jimmie Carter certifies
by LT-7
The problem with the elections wasn't with the conduct at the polls, which was all he covered. It was with the conduct outside. Hamas has bought its entry into politics by being the providers of humanitarian aid, especially in the Gaza strip. People are dependent on them for subsistence. How can a politician run against the guy that puts the food on everyone in the area's table and win? Fatah doesn't have resources and Hamas gets them from outside and then uses them to get dependents. Israel facilitates it by keeping the Palestinian public down.
no, but there is a limit to
by alameda929

our trying to socially engineer the entire Middle East.

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