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Isn't declaring anti-Zionists "Jew-haters"
by mercurial1

kinda like calling anti-repubs "Christian-haters", given that the party is comprised of little but Christians, and their platform consists of such things like total opposition to abortion, gay marriage, etc, and they pursue Christian goals like prayer in school, etc?

Can any of the rightwingnuts here that level that charge, explain how opposition to a political movement like Zionism and its policies are, translates into hate for religion of Judaism and those that practice it?

Oh that's right, this is just another example of using inflammatory rhetoric in an effort to silence dissent and opposition, and to avoid having to justify the conduct of those that opposition attacks--- kinda like how and why Jews that express these views are reduced to being self-haters and whatnot.

nevermind.

It's not only LIKE that
by Horus
...for many of them, it IS that. The GOP or Party of God (American Hezbollah) counts itself as dispensing law and morality STRAIGHT from the Christian Bible, and opposing them is for many of the nuttier ones nothing less than announcing yourself an "unbeliever" or at the very least, "anti-American."
Yes. It is also like.....
by ZealotforTruth

Calling Anti-Liberals "Fascists,"

or,

Anti-Obama voters "Racist,"

or,

Anti-Gay Marriage "Homophobe,"

Etc......

Re: Isn't declaring anti-Zionists "Jew-haters"
by altamont

I'm not a regular in these parts, but do you have any colleagues who hold you in high esteem on this Slate forum?

One rant and I can see you are not bound by reason.

More gibberish
by Horus
ZealotforTruth:

Calling Anti-Liberals "Fascists,"

ONly when they behave in a way consistent with Fascist thinking, of course (militarism, nationalism, etc.)

or,

Anti-Obama voters "Racist,"

Only when they act or speak in racist ways

or,

Anti-Gay Marriage "Homophobe,"

In fact such people ARE anti-homosexual by definition

Etc......

Go ahead, try to think of some that make SENSE...I dare you! :)

Re: Isn't declaring anti-Zionists "Jew-haters"
by mercurial1

sure, I've shared mutual respect with several fray luminaries in the past.

Why do you ask dumbass, because you can't muster a response?

It does appear so.

do so or piss off

Who woulda thunk it, eh????
by ZealotforTruth

More o that double-standard from Ballot Box's resident Hypocrit....

Some things NEVER change.....

Re: It's not only LIKE that
by mercurial1

yep, we know it horus.

I'm afraid this country is gonna continue to suffer at their hand, until they wake up and realize it.

Re: Isn't declaring anti-Zionists "Jew-haters"
by altamont
mercurial1:

sure, I've shared mutual respect with several fray luminaries in the past.

Why do you ask dumbass, because you can't muster a response?

It does appear so.

do so or piss off

Name them.

I would take the time to muster a response if I thought you capable of understanding facts and ascending to the truth. But "Cast not pearls before swine" resonates here.

Mercury is Ballot Box's Village idiot....
by ZealotforTruth

And no, outside of Horus and a few others, no one 'respects' this moron.

Lots of folks like to punch his buttons, though and watch him go spastic...

Just watch.....

Re: Isn't declaring anti-Zionists "Jew-haters"
by mercurial1

Demothenes, Thracymus, Robes, zinya, monfort, etc...

now, either respond to the TP content, or have the last word.

I don't waste much time or text on non-responsive idiots.

Here is your response.
by altamont

Isn't declaring anti-Zionists "Jew-haters" kinda like calling anti-repubs "Christian-haters", given that the party is comprised of little but Christians, and their platform consists of such things like total opposition to abortion, gay marriage, etc, and they pursue Christian goals like prayer in school, etc?

This statement makes no sense to me. You are defending anti-Zionists by saying they do not hate Jews per se. Then you are defending anti-repubs by saying they do not hate Christians per se. But then you go on and say that the republican party is basically nothing but a bunch of Christians who have a platform that is filled with Christian “bigotry.” So which is it? Anti-repubs do have a problem with Christians or do they not???

f course your claim anti-Zionists are not Jew haters is totally bogus. The very fact they assemble this pejorative term “Zionists” implicates every Jew in Israel. It’s a B.S. term by the way. If Israel were aggressive land grabbing “to-hell-with-the-Arabs-and-th­eir-needs” kind of nation, they would have never given the entire Sinai peninsula back to Egypt who tried to overthrow them in 1967. They would never have retreated from S. Lebanon just endure more rocket attacks on their people. They would never have unilaterally pulled out of Gaza and much of the West Bank without any concessions whatsoever from their Arab neighbors. They could have taken over all of the land they wanted from the Mediterraneon to the Euphrates if they were ZIONISTS! But instead, Israel has tirelessly endured hundreds of attacks (a rocket here, a stone there, a murder there) and been willing to enter into peace negotiations time and time and time again…. all the while knowing the heart of their adversary was not intent on peace, it was on the obliteration of their nation. Read their own charters if you care.

Moving on.

Christians being opposed to abortion makes Christians what? Bigots? Narrow minded? Evil? Or is it maybe they are concerned for something you and yours just happen to call an “inconvenience?”

And so it’s the Christians who are so vehement against gay marriage which is so clearly the right thing to do, is it? Funny how that referendum was soundly defeated in every state (11?) that put it to a vote in the past few elections including the heavy liberal states of Oregon and California. But you want to blame the Christians for it and yet it seems most of the people find the whole idea to be repugnant.

Finally, Christians are not pushing for prayer in school legislation. Hell, they are not even asking for a moment of silence any more which is asking too much apparently because our public schools are already beacons of morality and goodness. I think Christians are merely lamenting all the things that have gone wrong with our society and the degradation of youth…. or haven’t you noticed?

Your list of posters I take it are esteemed? I think that is now up for debate, too.

Re: Mercury is Ballot Box's Village idiot....
by altamont

He just listed some esteemed posters who hold him in esteem as well.

Notably,

Demothenes, Thracymus, Robes, zinya, monfort, etc...

Are you saying he is not telling the truth? I was only curious to know.

your impotence is acknowledged fleabrain
by mercurial1

The Zionists and repubs can be despised for their policies without despising all those who share the same religion with those adhering to either Zionism or the repub party.

Pretty simple stuff despite your efforts to complicate it, but unsurprising that you can't wrap your little mind around it.

It's a very narrow and easily understandable case I presented, but typically, you seek to widen it into areas not addressed. Analogies are always a bit imprecise, and you've posted nothing to show that anti-Zionism, or opposition to that political movement (like with the repub party) equates to hate for Jews.

By all means, TP your assertion that "of course your claim anti-Zionists are not Jew haters is totally bogus. The very fact they assemble this pejorative term “Zionists” implicates every Jew in Israel.

and see how well you can defend it. It's a hilariously and criminally stupid, and I'd enjoy reading your ass-kicking when I get back.

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