Another example of liberal and un-constitutional judges making wrong headed rulings in spite of the law and the people. It will be overturned in the general election. Mass. proved gays who marry dont stay together any longer than gays who dont. In fact the numbers who married fell off sharply after the ruling. It has more to do with an agenda than committment. Gays dont stay together as a rule and gay men have a median life span of less than 50 years compared to almost 80 to men in real marriage. God loves all his children, but he made male and female and for them alone is marriage, family, and children. No suprise this happened in Calif. but 70% of the people here do not approve.

Care to list your sources of information? These are some pretty amazing numbers and I noticed how you so conveniently left out how many same sex marriages divorce so I'd like to compare the numbers.

Yeah! The will of the people is all that matters, not the law. If we decide we don't like someone or some group, why, we can just vote to cancel their civil rights, and ta-da! No rights for you!

Thats correct except this is not a civil rights issue! Ask any non-homosexual african american which 99% agree that homosexuality is NOT equivilant to being born black. Talk about trying to get a free ride what a crock! First of all there is no scientific fact that anyone is born gay otherwise the homosexual to heterosexual ratio would be so obvious and secondly you cannot procreate which is the ultimate tell tale fact that this is not only unatural but against all moral law, well thats if you have any morals. And I hope unhappy marriage in CAlif gives you the statistical facts because I have seen and heard the stats he is mentioning before. And the same thing is happening in the Netherlands. But the consequences are what scares me because the innocent will also have to suffer for these selfish and perverse lifestyles.

Thank you for people on here with some sense! Who really cares about proving statistics anyway. Plain and simple homosexuality is immoral PERIOD. It's things like this that are destroying our country and youth. You cannot procreate...... Now argue that!........ You can't. Let's look at it like this, let's say all the heterosexuals on earth became gay, they all got married and all natural procreation came to an end......... End of human race. It's not natural or moral, it is a perversion I don't care how you look at it. People are NOT born gay.

And let's say all people were suddenly fertile (people of your ilk tend to forget there are infertile people out there... or people who get hystorectomies... are they immoral and disgusting, too?) And procreated to the best of their ability...

The human race would double or triple in numbers... the ecosystem wouldn't be able to support us, and we would all die from starvation.

End of the human race.

Get off the cross, we need the wood. There HAVE been scientific studies which have shown that the physiology of the brain in homosexuals is different from that in heterosexuals. Homosexuality occurs in animals. Potential for procreation is not a question because, if they wanted, a homosexual could, very easily, impregnate a female or become pregnant. There is NO ethical argument against homosexuality that doesn't, also, d*mn a LOT of other people (don't priests and nuns and whatnot refuse to procreate? doesn't that make them just like homos?) so just stop it.

and lets say everyone was heterosexual and married and had kids...

the planet could not support those population numbers.

It is possible that God is smart enough to create those who don't procreate...both heterosexually and through homosexuality in order to not have OVER population.

and yes, there are NUMEROUS studies about many things being different FROM birth and during puberty in homosexuals...including testosterone levels for women and estrogen levels in gay men as well as brain differences.

Check your facts.

There are also studies, reports AND PICTURES and videos of "gay" animals in the animal kingdom.

how sad to get to heaven and realize that you hated and discriminated against something God planned for all along...it may actually have a place in both love and population control...for whatever reason, like anything else He creates that hurts no one else...there is a reason.

So you are saying there should be a fertility test for marriage?

IOW any woman past the age of menapause cannot be married right?

Any woman that has had her tubes tied should automatically be divorced?

Any man that has had a vasectomy or a bad case of gonohrea has to be precluded from marriage?

Yer a maroon

That's what I was waiting for you to say!! Thank you! "That a homosexual could easily impregnate a female" No sir, no mam, impregnating a female is against the rules in this game. You have to stick with your own kind, remember? Thank you for proving my point that it is unnatural. As well you are comparing yourself to an animal, which I find odd at best. And I am no holy roller, so don't try and play that card.

There were also scientific studies that said the earth was the center of the universe at one time.

Okay, I won't "play that card" but what, then, is your argument against the rights of another individual?

Also, of course I could put humans in the same category as animals... it's what we are. Or are you a vegitable or mineral? I would like to know what we're dealing with here.

Also, "stick with your own kind, remember?" You never stated any rules, so how can you call me on a rule that wasn't known... you merely asserted that homosexuals cannot procreate, which is false. I do, however, have a completely heterosexual aunt who was born infertile, so, in my experience, some heterosexuals can't procreate either. How immoral and unnatural!

WOW

need I point out the whole separation of church and state issues? Marriage is something that conservatists define as a union between a man and a women but thats the churches deffinition of marriage and any more Marriage to both gays and straight people is nothing more than a legal union of two people. Fricken give them their rights too. Stop being nazi's and grand wizard's. What's next persecution of the jews again???

By the way where in the heck did you pull the stat out that gay men live shorter life spans then straight men and then say that being a homosexual is not genetic?? Current studies on twins are showing that homosexuality is the result of several genetic factors. amazingly i'm having a hard time finding all of your statistics - let me give you a tip - if your going to listen to crap statistics maybe you should check to see if they come from an accredited source prior to airing them to other people.

Okay numskull....I'll spell it out simply.... a man and a man can't reproduce, a woman and a woman can't reproduce. You sound as though you purposely don't understand the point being made.

reproducing doesn't have squat to do with wanting to spending the rest of your life with someone, or loving someone, ok numskull?

I'm a straight christian woman and am married to a straight christian man and we can't seem to reproduce does that make us perverse and immoral??

Besides what would happen if all the gays got married?? truely? would it kill you? would it be the end of the world? would hell reign down upon us? would it kill the economy? bring starvation upon everyone? really truely what harm would it cause? tell me .. explain it to me because obviously i'm missing something .. so they can't reproduce and they can't get married THATS NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM STRAIGHT even if they can't marry they are still going to be gay .. pisses you off doesn't it?

I think you hit the nail on the head in that one!