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Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by TJA
Oh boy. I can hardly wait to hear the flood of right wing zealots telling the how my marriage is threatened by Bob and Steve wanting to get married. Nothing get's them in a lather faster than the topic of gay marriage. This is going to suck.
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by artandsoul

And it's too bad, isn't it?

I was struck by the wording in the opinion how graceful the language was and how carefully and succinctly the court described the irrational biases and stereotypical treatement of people based on sexual orientation. And how often it has absolutely nothing to do with the level of job performance or contribution to society.

So, bravo for California!

Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by spiker
I hear this November California may have a constitutional amendment on the ballot against gay marriage. Will it pass? Will it make a ban on gay marriage constitutional?
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by TruettCollins

Legal does not = right.

Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by spiker
Your problem is you can't articulate what makes it wrong and so you come off as homophobic (and with all that implies). At least attempt to explain why it is wrong in your opinion.
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by TruettCollins
I love the way when anyone stands up for GOD's teachings they are called names.......LOL
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by deva

Nobody called you a name - they asked you to explain why you think gay marriage is wrong, and suggested that if you can't come up with a reason, you'll be perceived as homophobic.

So?

Still waiting for your rationale...

Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by TJA
TruettCollins, I would love to know exactly how many of "GOD's teachings" you follow in your daily life. Do you eat shrimp or shellfish? Do you cut your forelocks? Do you conduct business on the sabath (Saturday)? Do you associate with your wife during her cycle? Do you sleep with your slaves (Ok) but not with your father's wives (not ok)? There are many teachings in the Bible that I'm sure you don't follow and probably are not even aware of yet you focus on homosexuality....why?
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by spiker
Your questions show ignorance of the new testament (which is in fact the Christian part). :0)
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by TruettCollins
First you need to learn how to read.....Second I did. GOD calls it sin so it is SIN.
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by TruettCollins

Since you don’t understand Christianity, let me explain that we fall under the new law of grace..can you come up with something out of the New Testament?

Some day you might get enough knowledge to understand.
Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by spiker

GOD calls it sin so it is SIN.

So is adultery.

Do know what Christ says about who can divorce and why?

Very few people have gotten a legitimately Christian divorce. So by Old Testament rules adulterers (those in second and third marriages) are like gays and subject to stoning to death. Lucky for you (or your friends) that Christ kind of got us over that. Look it up.

Yes, they are still sins. You should hate all the sins equally. That said I'm against gay marriage for religious, legal, logical, and secular reasons.

But in the end YOU just come off as homophobic or a hater. Why aren't you an adulterator hater and support laws that divorced people CAN'T get re-married unless they can prove their Christian divorce? You have no argruments and no thought process. You are un-Christian. You are an un-adulterated hater until you do.

Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by deva

Hey Spiker, We're in agreement on TruettCollins, I think. But I'm a little surprised to see you dismissing the Old Testament, and calling the New Testament "the Christian part".

Anti-gay rights folks routinely use the Old Testament as proof that homosexuality is a sin (generally quoting from Leviticus) so why can't pro-gay rights folks point out the absurdity of people who foam at the mouth about gays while chowing down on shellfish? And pork for that matter?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Jesus never said, "Ignore everything in all those other books." It's not really fair for the Old Testament to "count" on the side of the religious right, but not be fair game to show their hypocrisy.

Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by spiker

In the New Testament Paul exempts gentiles from circumcision and Jewish dietary laws, big, big issues in their day. You can take Paul as authoritative or not. I do.

As a matter of fact Jesus did say the Old Testament was binding. I take it to be binding were the New Testament does not explicitly or implicitly override the Old. :0)

Re: Gay Marriage is legal...here come the zealots...
by Slawrence5

TruettCollins wrote: "I love the way when anyone stands up for GOD's teachings they are called names."

I love the way that when right wing religious types act like stupid scum, they then whine when people point this out.

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