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What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by RainMan

Let me rephrase that….What Obama-nuts either do not understand or what they do understand but do not care about. This is a study in deception, psychobabble and deflection. It is a study in what I intend to call Obama-speak. Obama-speak is the practice of making a point or of justification by using false pretense. It is using a valid concept to prove one that is invalid. It is trickery and deceit.

Obama-speak 1: Wearing a flag pin does not make you a patriot.

Agreed, an individual politician can faithfully wear a flag pin, display it with pride, and espouse great platitudes, impressing all who encounter him with his sense of love for the country….all the while being a snake of the highest magnitude. He might be a greedy, selfish parasite, who exploits his constituency, lies cheats and feathers his bed off the efforts of better people. The flag pin does not make him something which he is not.

However, a politician’s refusing to wear a flag pin, even making a public statement to that effect, or wearing one and then removing it, does not carry the same connotation as the statement, Wearing a flag pin does not make you a patriot. It is a look into the character of the politician and a peek at his heart. It is indicative of an individual who just may really hate all for which this country stands. It may seem like a small thing but it is not. I think it is a psychological profile of his true being. The flag pin might not make someone something he is not but refusing to wear it shows him for what he is.

Obama-speak 2: Placing your hand over you heart for the playing of the national anthem does not make you a patriot.

Again, agreed, for the same reasons listed above. Why would an individual refuse to place his hand over his heart for the playing of the national anthem, given the American tradition behind the act? Why would he risk incurring the wrath of most of the country…is there a principle of some sort involved? A young person might engage in such behavior, either to assert his individuality or perhaps to express his non-conformity, but Barack Obama is not a kid….he is a candidate for President of the United States. So why does he do it?

As with the flag pin, a politician may arise at the playing of the Star Spangled Banner and place his hand over his heart, this act does not make him that which he is not. It might make him a hypocrite because the truth may be that he could care less about the country. The opposite act, however, refusing to place the hand over the heart for the playing of the national anthem, says much more about the individual. It says there is something wrong with him.

I have always maintained that lunacy, in all its forms can only be masked for just so long. Trained spies and secret agents may operate within the realms of the enemy for years. They may hide their true feelings and loyalties for the sake of survival. But a person who is masking his very heart and soul is conflicted within.

The rage inside a person who must, for a purpose, appear to be the opposite of what his passion tells him to be, must be enormous. Truth…whatever truth may be, rages to be released. It may surface in the eyes of one who preaches a gospel he does not believe. It may appear as an act which is out of context, a sentiment which does not correlate with the norm, or an offhand remark that reveals a conflict inside man.

Barack Obama’s refusal to place his hand over his heart for the playing of the national anthem tells us all we need to know about the man. This is truth struggling to be recognized. Bear with me a moment. Most Americans, the true patriots, the half hearted patriots, the ones who merely go through the motions, have no trouble standing for the national anthem and placing their hands over their hearts. It is ingrained in us. It is a simple tradition, an act that expresses respect and perhaps even love for the country.

Who can offer a reason for not doing so? There is no logic to refusing. An individual who commits the act may not be passionate about his love for the country but an individual, seeking to be president, who refuses to do it, and refuses to do it in a public forum, knowing that the eyes of the nation are watching, does not express lack of passion for the country, he reveals his animosity toward it, nay…his hatred for it.

Obama-speak 3: Barack Obama’s association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not relevant to Obama’s eligibility to be president.

A simple Baloney would ordinarily suffice to refute such an obvious deflection of truth but I will elaborate. Can Obama supporters really believe this? One has to ask the question even if a straight answer is not likely to be received. How can such a notion even be entertained?

Granted, there are, no doubt, some individuals who warm the pews of Christian churches for much, or most of their lives and never really get it. They never come to a saving knowledge of God. They go through the motions, say the amens, agree with the preacher, and even tell him so on occasion, but somehow, either through laziness or willful blindness, they just don’t understand. I have no problem believing that this happens.

Barack Obama, however, sat in the Trinity United Church of Christ for twenty years, listening to Reverend Jeremiah Wright spew hatred and racism and tell lie after lie about sins committed by this country. And now he would have us believe that he shares no agreement with the pastor. It strains the credulity and is insulting to even suggest that such a thing is possible, and even more insulting is the way in which his supporters dismiss the notion as if it has no relevance whatsoever.

Obama-speak 4: Michelle Obama’s remarks about never being proud of her country are irrelevant to the campaign.

Whether it was a slip of the tongue or a miscalculation of the possible impact it might have, when Michelle Obama said, this is the first time in my adult life that I have been proud of my country, she showed us her heart. She showed us an angry, divisive heart, filled with barely controlled rage, and a heart full of resentment, bitterness and bigotry.

The tap dancing around the subject, by Obama supporters, in an effort to negate the fallout, has done little toward that end. Once again truth is in the demeanor. Michelle Obama has never been proud of this country. Never been proud of a country that has been at the forefront of life saving medical technology and worldwide disaster relief efforts; Never been proud of a country that led a crusade to free hundreds of millions of people from the tyranny of Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini and the Japanese Warlords; Never been proud of a country that mounted a successful effort to place men on the moon for exploration and for peaceful pursuits. Michelle Obama has never been proud of the United States of America, a country that, with all its faults, people are still drowning in a river and dying in a desert to get into….all in hope of achieving a better life for themselves and for their families.

And The Obama people would have us believe that her anger toward this country is not relevant to her husband’s campaign, a man who sat beside her in Jeremiah Wright’s church and heard the same hatred and venom being spewed by the aforementioned Reverend.

Obama-speak 5: Barack Obama’s relationship with William Ayres is irrelevant.

This is a problem for Obama that is not going to go away. He has suggested that he cannot be held accountable for events that took place when he was eight years old. Agreed but, if one left it there, much would be missed. Ayers who was involved with the Weather Underground terrorist organization forty years ago, reconfirmed his commitment to his criminal activities, in 2001 when he stated, I don't regret setting bombs and I feel we didn't do enough.

The American people do not know the full extent of Obama’s association with William Ayres because Obama has skirted around the issue and has been dismissive, claiming he only attended meetings at which Ayres was present. We don’t know the truth, and that is the problem.

Barack Obama has gotten a pass from the media on every issue that is of vital importance to the election process. He has not as yet been taken to task and asked the hard questions. This will change once he is named the Democrat nominee.

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Jack Dallas

Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by shirley
I know that it's terribly disappointing to you, Jack, but Republicans have tried that game and lost. Dare I say MS, LA and IL? Sorry about your luck.................or lack of it.
Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by Wahbooz
Shirley, you just don't understand; wearing a flagpin, made in China, is a real sign of patriotism to some. And I just laugh at that 'age old tradition' of putting your hand over your heart during the National Anthem. In grade school, many years before most here were even born, we put our hands over our hearts while reciting the Pledge, not during the National Anthem. We were made to stand at attention. This age old tradition is something new that clowns who rewrite Patriotism 101 have come up with. I.E. neocons like Lush Limpballs.
Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by RainMan

Keep sipping the kool-ade.

Jack

Thank you for your "Jack-speak" Jack
by KnotaFrayed

We can listen to your speak or we can listen to Obama-speak. As far as I can tell each has their points and based on who you appeared to have supported in the last almost seven years, I hope you won't mind if I listen to something different for a change.

Non-conformity is refreshing and if you listened to, not just heard what Obama said on Wright, you would have put it to bed like everyone else, including Wright.

If you would like to keep pouring gasoline on it and expressing your own bias even as you admonish others for bias, please continue on ahead.

"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower

Re: Thank you for your "Jack-speak" Jack
by RainMan

I'm not sure that Ike considered dissent to be spewing hatered and racism and treasonous, anti-American lies and bullshit, cavorting with terrorists, and aiding and abetting the country's enemies.

Jack

Re: Thank you for your "Jack-speak" Jack
by CrimeANitly
Little con man feeling pressure as Repos lose seats to Dems again? Take a nap and wake up refreshed.
Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by shirley
Now that I think that far back, you're right, Wah. We were taught to stand, hand over heart while reciting the pledge and I never heard of doing so while singing the National Anthem. What an odd concept of patriotism Jack has.
Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by genedio

Rainman: Barack Obama, however, sat in the Trinity United Church of Christ for twenty years.

But you told me that Obama was a Muslim, so how could he be sitting in the Trinity United Church of Christ warming his pew for 20 years? Maybe Obama is leading a dual identity: by day the mild-mannered Barack Obama, and by night he's the Muslim terrorist Barack Hussein, associate of one William Ayres, of Weather Underground (in)fame. It's a miracle he hasn't been arrested and charged with treason.

Indeed, "we do not know the full extent of Obama’s association with William Ayres. We don’t know the truth, and that is the problem..."

Too bad we can't pin what we don't know (but would like to imagine and believe) on Obracka.

Jack, I think it's about time you signed up with your local chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.

Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by Loree

Time to zip your pants again, Jack...your stupidity is showing AGAIN!

It takes an idiot to SUPPORT the Bush idiot....In that you do a great job.

Of what good is a 'false' patriotism, when that is nothing more than cheap words lying around for the using, and one big lie after another?

Patriotism isn't about an unprecedented invasion of a sovereign country....that has NEVER been the American way, NOR the PATRIOTIC way.

Patriotism isn't putting your hand over your heart, as a meaningless gesture....but it IS wqhat is IN your heart. Bush and patriotism are about as far at opposite ends of the spectrum, as betting on a horse that has a broken leg before the starting gates open.

You and your ilk picked a born loser when you supported Bush, and you are not patriotic enough to acknowledge that you made the biggest mistake of your life in doing so.

How patriotic do you feel when you hear of another half dozen of our very best being killed in a war based on nothing but lies? Does that make you feel patriotic? Does that give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling, when you see those dead and maimed for life? Because I'm sure it does Bush...it gives him a feeling of power...one can almost see him beating on his ches, that smug and arrognant look on his face, and thinking, 'I DID this! Just look at what I can do!'

What I see in YOU, Jack, is a little, bitter, disappointed man, plagued by your ill-directed support of the liar in chief, and not man enough to gracefully admit that, not only is Bush all wrong, but you, as well, in your continued support of the world's most prominent terrorist...GW Bush.

You truly disappoint me, Jack, for when I turn you inside out, I see no hint of patriotism, nor do I detect even a whiff of it.

Re: Jack!
by Elaine_
Rainman please do not include among that number! I am no BO supporter and never will be I see dead people.
Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by TickleBob

Wahbooz:
Shirley, you just don't understand; wearing a flagpin, made in China, is a real sign of patriotism to some. And I just laugh at that 'age old tradition' of putting your hand over your heart during the National Anthem. In grade school, many years before most here were even born, we put our hands over our hearts while reciting the Pledge, not during the National Anthem. We were made to stand at attention. This age old tradition is something new that clowns who rewrite Patriotism 101 have come up with. I.E. neocons like Lush Limpballs.

See how stupid you are? Jack said not wearing one is nothing significant, but refusing to wear one takes on an entirely different meaning.

Of course you are wrong about placing your hand over your heart during the National Anthem. Its a very common and respectful parctice. Where did you grow up?

Here is an item of complete ignorance: "This age old tradition is something new that clowns who rewrite Patriotism 101 have come up with. I.E. neocons like Lush Limpballs".

How can an "age old tradition" be something new? If anyone has limpballs, it would be someone like you.

Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by Boss Greer

shirley:
Now that I think that far back, you're right, Wah. We were taught to stand, hand over heart while reciting the pledge and I never heard of doing so while singing the National Anthem. What an odd concept of patriotism Jack has.

Nope, you and he are both incorrect.

The formalized 'Flag code' and the attendant 'hand on heart' language have been present since at least 1942. If you are both significantly older than that, my apologies for my presumption.

United States Code Title 36 Chapter 3 — National Anthem, Motto, Floral Emblem, and March §301. National anthem; Star-Spangled Banner
  1. The composition consisting of the words and music known as The Star-Spangled Banner is designated the national anthem of the United States of America.

  2. Conduct during playing — During rendition of the national anthem—
    1. when the flag is displayed —
      1. all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
      2. men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
      3. individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
    2. when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
Re: Thank you for your "Jack-speak" Jack
by TickleBob
KnotaFrayed:

"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower

So to you, refusing to wear a flag pin or stand and place your hand over your heart for a pledge of allegiance or the National Anthem, is really just a form "dissent". Is it also appropriate for the man who would lead the Nation to whom we pledge allegiance or the Nation for which we demonstrate respect by standing and placing our hand over our hearts as we hear her National Anthem? This is dissent from a Presidential candidate. You think this is appropriate?

You think this is the behavior Dwight Eisenhower was refering to? You are full of shit.

Re: What Obama-Nuts Do Not Understand (KFS)
by TickleBob
Loree:

Time to zip your pants again, Jack...your stupidity is showing AGAIN!

It takes an idiot to SUPPORT the Bush idiot....In that you do a great job.

Of what good is a 'false' patriotism, when that is nothing more than cheap words lying around for the using, and one big lie after another?

Patriotism isn't about an unprecedented invasion of a sovereign country....that has NEVER been the American way, NOR the PATRIOTIC way.

Patriotism isn't putting your hand over your heart, as a meaningless gesture....but it IS wqhat is IN your heart. Bush and patriotism are about as far at opposite ends of the spectrum, as betting on a horse that has a broken leg before the starting gates open.

You and your ilk picked a born loser when you supported Bush, and you are not patriotic enough to acknowledge that you made the biggest mistake of your life in doing so.

How patriotic do you feel when you hear of another half dozen of our very best being killed in a war based on nothing but lies? Does that make you feel patriotic? Does that give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling, when you see those dead and maimed for life? Because I'm sure it does Bush...it gives him a feeling of power...one can almost see him beating on his ches, that smug and arrognant look on his face, and thinking, 'I DID this! Just look at what I can do!'

What I see in YOU, Jack, is a little, bitter, disappointed man, plagued by your ill-directed support of the liar in chief, and not man enough to gracefully admit that, not only is Bush all wrong, but you, as well, in your continued support of the world's most prominent terrorist...GW Bush.

You truly disappoint me, Jack, for when I turn you inside out, I see no hint of patriotism, nor do I detect even a whiff of it.

Absolutely insane drivel. As ignorant an answer as I've ever read; addresses nothing about the points of the post but instead is yet another Loony Loree rant about Bush. The subject had nothing to do with Bush, war, economy or anything but American traditions that a man running to lead holds NO respect for.

Who leads you to the toilet when you need to pee? Better, who tells you when you need to pee?

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