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No--next question?
by websterhall
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Folks, we are in the exact same position as we were last week. Clinton's victory was predicted last week. That should would win big was also predicted. Absolutely nothing has changed other than Obama has picked up more superdelegates and Clinton won some more pledged delegates. As we were told last week, Clinton can win every single delegate in WV and KY and still lose. Everyone took this into consideration last week. Next week we are going to have a split outcome--a win for Obama in Oregon and a win for Clinton in KY. Then, on June 3, we will have two more wins for Obama in MT and SD.

So, next week are we going to hear about Clinton's weakness in the Pacific Northwest? On June 3rd, are we going to have to search our souls about why Clinton does not appeal to North Plains or Big Sky voters? The race is over. It has been since the Potomac primary.

Now, please, can we stop throwing around arguments about who is more racist or sexist or elitist and focus on the general election? This is tiresome.

Re: No--next question?
by maxpractical
.. or at least use this media attention to question the policies, and indeed the judgement, of Senator Curmudgeon...
Re: No--next question?
by raptor5618

I have to agree. I think that to argue that Hillary cannot win is a twisting of the facts. Every Superdelegate and the pledged delegates as I well I believe can vote as they please. So no matter how the super delegates have said they are for this one or that they can still switch up and until they make their vote. So it is possible.

However, I think that happening is highly improbable. Baring Obama having something come out that is really bad I just do not see Hillary getting the nod. Even if something does come out I think that they really have insured that their hands are tied as to how they will vote.

So my next question is what will happen to the polls once Obama and McCain start battling head to head. The polls currently show him beating McCain but I thought I saw a state by state poll that showed he was losing on the basis of the electoral college.

No matter, it shows that it is close at a time when both Obama and Hillary are pretty much the only story in the news. I would think that they would be polling much higher. I guess you can argue that their debate about who is better lessens their appeal but I think given the nature of our society now, out of sight is out of mind. You drop from the public eye and it is like you are non existent. Ask Rudy how that works.

I think the Obama camp needs to get on their game. Chanting we are the change that we seek is not going to cut it against McCain and all the pressure FOX and other groups like that will bring to bear.

As stated in other posts I think that once they go head to head Obama's appeal will fade. I also do not believe that most of Hillary's supporters will move to Obama. I for one cannot see voting for him and I know many others who are saying the same thing. I am registered Democrat but I vote for who I think will be best for the country as do most of the people I know. By the way I am from PA. A state I think he needs by the way.

Re: No--next question?
by maxpractical
So raptor, you're going to vote for McCain? Because that's best for the country? It might be best for the downfall of the country but I question if you are not another of the thousands of "Chaos" republicans who PREFER to have Hillary in the general election, as is the case in so many of these posts..
Re: No--next question?
by NightSwimmer

Rudy 911 was the people's choice...

Until he actually had to run a campaign.

Out of sight - out of mind worked pretty well for Rudy.

Re: No--next question?
by pwoxby

Exactly right, NightSwimmer. John McCain is only close to Barack Obama in the polls now because the media have portrayed McCain as an "independent maverick". Nothing could be further from the truth.

Yes, McCain does like to stick his finger in the eyes of his fellow Republicans. But you can't slip a piece of paper in the gap between the positions of McCain and George Bush. Over the last eight years McCain has sided with Bush 95% of the time.

McCain is now trying to reinvent himself as an environmentalist. His record belies that joke. McCain has also repeatedly gone on record as wanting to overturn Roe vs Wade. All he has to do is to make one appointment to the Supreme Court to get his wish.

When bitter Hillary Clinton supporters find out what McCain really has said about women's reproductive rights, they will quickly stop their empty threats to defect to McCain. Nobody will unite the Democrats more effectively than John McCain.

Obama 08!

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