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McCain loses a major campaign talking point
by partizan
Quiet US Confession

Weapons Were Not Made In Iran After All

CASMII Press Release

12/05/08 "ICH" -- - In a sharp reversal of its longstanding accusations against Iran arming militants in Iraq , the US military has made an unprecedented albeit quiet confession: the weapons they had recently found in Iraq were not made in Iran at all.

According to a report by the LA Times correspondent Tina Susman in Baghdad: "A plan to show some alleged Iranian-supplied explosives to journalists last week in Karbala and then destroy them was cancelled after the United States realized none of them was from Iran. A U.S. military spokesman attributed the confusion to a misunderstanding that emerged after an Iraqi Army general in Karbala erroneously reported the items were of Iranian origin. When U.S. explosives experts went to investigate, they discovered they were not Iranian after all."

The US, which until two weeks ago had never provided any proof for its allegations, finally handed over its "evidence" of the Iranian origin of these weapons to the Iraqi government. Last week, an Iraqi delegation to Iran presented the US "evidence" to Iranian officials. According to Al-Abadi, a parliament member from the ruling United Iraqi Alliance who was on the delegation, the Iranian officials totally refuted "training, financing and arming" militant groups in Iraq . Consequently the Iraqi government announced that there is no hard evidence against Iran.

In another extraordinary event this week, the US spokesman in Iraq, Maj. Gen. Kevin Bergner, for the first time did not blame Iran for the violence in Iraq and in fact did not make any reference to Iran at all in his introductory remarks to the world media on Wednesday when he described the large arsenal of weapons found by Iraqi forces in Karbala.

In contrast, the Pentagon in August 2007 admitted that it had lost track of a third of the weapons distributed to the Iraqi security forces in 2004/2005. The 190,000 assault rifles and pistols roam free in Iraqi streets today.

In the past year, the US leaders have been relentless in propagating their charges of Iranian meddling and fomenting violence in Iraq and since the release of the key judgments of the US National Intelligence Estimate in December that Iran does not have a nuclear weaponisation programme, these accusations have sharply intensified.

The US charges of Iranian interference in Iraq too have now collapsed. Any threat of military strike against Iran is in violation of the UN charter and the IAEA's continued supervision on Iran's uranium enrichment facilities means there is no justification for sanctions.

CASMII calls on the US to change course and enter into comprehensive and unconditional negotiations with Iran.

The foreign fighters shit has always been bogus
by Smiley1979

I can't find the article tonight, but I recall reading that only about 1% of all militants captured are from other nations. And that's not just Iran, but almost every Middle Eastern nation combined.

Bottom line, bush invaded Iraq, and a shitload of Iraqis didn't like it. Why this is beyond the grasp of the cons is obvious-

They're fucking retarded.

Democrats aligning themselves with Iran now days
by HellFire

is nothing new.

Sure, Senator Obama may seek to make a strong ally with the Nation of Iran.... stronger than perhaos England, or stronger than Canada..... hell the Senator may seek to break from NATO and join up with the Muslim Jihad.

The only question, is will the United States Congress allow such if Senator Obama gains the White House?

Reread his rhetoric regarding Iran
by Smiley1979

"Obama will launch the most aggressive diplomatic effort in recent American history to reach a new compact on the stability of Iraq and the Middle East. This effort will include all of Iraq’s neighbors — including Iran and Syria. This compact will aim to secure Iraq’s borders; keep neighboring countries from meddling inside Iraq; isolate al Qaeda; support reconciliation among Iraq’s sectarian groups; and provide financial support for Iraq’s reconstruction."

He isn't exactly talking about forming an alliance with Iran, he's just making an observation that Iranian cooperation would help make the future of Iraq better.

And as far as the substance of the top post, I realize you've all been told time and time again that the Iranians are to blame for the violence in Iraq. However, think about this:

If a foreign nation was occupying America, would you take it with a smile and wait for the Canadians to help out, or would you arm yourself and start fucking some shit up?

Let me tell you something you Anti-American
by HellFire

Your constant and total alliance to any Nation against the United States of America, your insistence that the United States be destroyed in its current state and taken over by Muslim Extremists, your wish for Dead Americans on the Battlefield..... those things while perhaps being the Democratic Party Platform, regardless, it spells defeat for the Democrats in November.

As for the Top Post, well, I've actually seen Explosively Formed Penetrator Weapons, up close and personal.... have you?

Re: Let me tell you something you Anti-American
by partizan
What is with your crazy talk. I mean do your really believe this stuff ? Or are you just messing with people ?
You just described yourself
by Smiley1979

If you support bush's war against Iraq, you just described yourself.

After all, it's been a major distraction from the conflict with Islamic extremists, giving them all the recruits they could ever want and all the time in the world to plan their next move.

And Americans aren't dying on the battlefield because of me, but because of the people who keep them in a war with no real goals or objectives aside from running out the clock on the bush residency.

Finally, I've formed no official alliances with any nation. But I can definitely understand the desire of a nation to resist a foreign occupying army. You'd be lying if you claimed you wouldn't do the same.

I've wondered the same thing
by Smiley1979
But even the worst of the fascists don't advocate genocide with the enthusiasm of this guy. He's got a serious problem, and I hope the feds get him before he ends up in a clock tower with a rifle.
We are on different sides
by HellFire

I'm an American, and you are an Anti-American Terrorist who is Actively Engaged against the United States of America.

You are my Enemy.

Believe that Smiley is an Anti-American
by HellFire

who prays for the death of United States Military Personnel? Of course I believe it, Smiley is fighting against the United States of America, Smiley is fighting for the Enemy.

Why do you ask?

Perhaps we are now
by Smiley1979
But when your president's debt is called in, and we get taken over by China, I'm sure you and I will both be lighting up communist forces every chance we get.
Oh, you are God Damned Right
by HellFire

President Bush is my President... I didn't Vote for him though, regardless, he is the only President I have, he is the President of the United States of America.... so yes, President Bush is my President.

You are Anti-American, so, of course President Bush is not your President.

On the Battlefield, any Battlefield, I would be killing you.... not fighting with you.

Re: Believe that Smiley is an Anti-American
by partizan
HellFire:

who prays for the death of United States Military Personnel? Of course I believe it, Smiley is fighting against the United States of America, Smiley is fighting for the Enemy.

Why do you ask?

Because it's so off the deep end. Nobody here is wishing for the deaths of US soldiers. Our most dangerous enemy is not seeking our down fall though military confrontation with Islamist and Communist. In fact it is just the opposite. The danger comes from depending on them for our daily needs. They won't come to take us over in uniforms and tanks. They'll come in business suits with bundles of iou's to buy us out. And they will be carrying the banner of Capitalism.

Deep end?
by HellFire

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Smiley thinks the people killing United States Military Personnel are Freedom Fighters, Freedom Fighters doing their Patriotic Duty.

You worry about getting rid of those nasty Corporations, I'll worry about the Military and Paramilitary Enemies of the United States.

Re: Deep end?
by partizan
Do you think that it's right for those soldier to be in Iraq just because bush decided to send them there ? He created these paramilitary enemies where there were none. And the military of that country no more want to go into battle against the US military than a lamb wants to go to slaughter.
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