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Can't fight evolution
by Gio
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Modern ladies are fighting what evolution has elaborated carefully over millions of the years. The chances they will win are almost zero. Male nature (as the current standard “male” means and not female-projected “male-would be” is going to be) formed over the strong selection and competition and in a 30+ years you could not change it. Although, you may suppress it somewhat, but you have to do it all over the world not only in US. Otherwise others will come and take over the charge. That process is going on already about 25% of American man suffers from male hormone deficiency as a result and many more with problems with actual potency, but luckily they retain ability to give the progeny. This is dangerous experiment. Women gamble to make winners and losers’ like never before. You can not be free for one man and demand the entire life for the same thing from another man. Another man will be devastated over the time by realizing that. You can not infatuate the man forever by giving the child, bringing the money, making the perfect food or buying the house. This are temporary measures. Another road to happy marriage is the restorative procedure. Problem is if you ladies will respect that sort of husband??

Re: Can't fight evolution
by Jospry
Uh, okaaaaaay
Re: Can't fight evolution
by PhysicsGirl
I really don't know what you're talking about, or how this relates to Dear Prudence.
Re: Can't fight evolution
by zzygi
First of all, there are no "millions of years." God created the universe and everything in it in 6 days, just about 6,000 years ago. And yes, dinosaurs did roam the earth with mankind, read the bible. Open a Bible and look in Job. There was NO big bang, because something CANNOT be created from nothing. You sir, contrary to what some hairy men believe, did NOT evolve from an ape, or goop from the bottom of the ocean that grew feet and walked on earth. It has been proven many times over. I do agree, women are the physically weaker sex, and we cannot procreate without a man or his sperm. We were created to help our husbands succeed, and in the eyes of God we are man's equal. Are you agnostic? The greek dictionary difines agnostic as "ignoramous, stupid, etc..." Are you atheist? That word is a lie because if one doesn't believe in God the Father, as God, then one will place his or her belief in something else. Things like money, themselves, their job, their family, their car, their house, therefore that one thing is his or her god.
Re: Can't fight evolution
by zzygi
First of all, there are no "millions of years." God created the universe and everything in it in 6 days, just about 6,000 years ago. And yes, dinosaurs did roam the earth with mankind, read the bible. Open a Bible and look in Job. There was NO big bang, because something CANNOT be created from nothing. You sir, contrary to what some hairy men believe, did NOT evolve from an ape, or goop from the bottom of the ocean that grew feet and walked on earth. It has been proven many times over. I do agree, women are the physically weaker sex, and we cannot procreate without a man or his sperm. We were created to help our husbands succeed, and in the eyes of God we are man's equal. Are you agnostic? The greek dictionary defines agnostic as "ignoramous, stupid, etc..." Are you atheist? That word is a lie because if one doesn't believe in God the Father, as God, then one will place his or her belief in something else. Things like money, themselves, their job, their family, their car, their house, therefore that one thing is his or her god.
Re: Can't fight evolution
by PhysicsGirl

zzygi:
First of all, there are no "millions of years." God created the universe and everything in it in 6 days, just about 6,000 years ago.

Nope. Didn't happen. Do you know how many different theories would have to be completely and utterly wrong for this to be true? Just about everything in physics! While these theories are certainly not 100% correct, the fact that we can build things like nuclear bombs, xray machines, and TVs mean that they aren't *that* wrong.

zzygi:
And yes, dinosaurs did roam the earth with mankind, read the bible.

The Bible also says rabbits chew cud and that pi is 3. Sorry. It's a religous text. Look to it for a moral guide if you want, but it is very clear that the things it describe can not have happened. I find it interesting that Jesus taught by telling parables which weren't literally true, and yet many Christians feel that the Bible itself must be literally true. If there was an omnipotent god, wouldn't one expect that She'd tell her creation in a manner they'd understand?

zzygi:
Open a Bible and look in Job.

Mmm. Job. One of my personal favorites. You got to love the idea that God and Satan would get into a betting match where they do pointlessly horrible things to one person. I suppose you'd expect it of Satan..... In any case, the kicker to me when I was a child was that at the end of it God give Job a *new* family. Now if someone were to kill my family and then say, "I have a new family for you!", I wouldn't be soothed.

zzygi:
There was NO big bang, because something CANNOT be created from nothing.

That's not what the big bang says.

zzygi:
You sir, contrary to what some hairy men believe, did NOT evolve from an ape, or goop from the bottom of the ocean that grew feet and walked on earth.

I have it on good record that even nonhairy men feel that evolution is an accurate theory. (Which doesn't say that people evolved from apes or that goop from the bottom of the ocean grew feet.)

zzygi:
I do agree, women are the physically weaker sex, and we cannot procreate without a man or his sperm.

And men can procreate without our eggs. So what? Actually, given technology it will be far easier for women to procreate without men than it will be for men to procreate without women!

zzygi:
Are you agnostic? The greek dictionary defines agnostic as "ignoramous, stupid, etc..."

That's not what it means. An agnostic is one who feels that certain spiritual issues are unknown or unknowable.

zzygi:
Are you atheist? That word is a lie because if one doesn't believe in God the Father, as God, then one will place his or her belief in something else. Things like money, themselves, their job, their family, their car, their house, therefore that one thing is his or her god.

Bull. An atheist doesn't believe in a god. That does not mean that they need to elevate anything else to godhood. Some do, of course, but many don't.

Re: Can't fight evolution
by IncogNeato
When you wake up and read this, please tell us what you were talking about, if you can decypher it.
Re: Can't fight evolution
by dumb_blonde

zzygi:
First of all, there are no "millions of years." God created the universe and everything in it in 6 days, just about 6,000 years ago. And yes, dinosaurs did roam the earth with mankind, read the bible. Open a Bible and look in Job. There was NO big bang, because something CANNOT be created from nothing. You sir, contrary to what some hairy men believe, did NOT evolve from an ape, or goop from the bottom of the ocean that grew feet and walked on earth. It has been proven many times over. I do agree, women are the physically weaker sex, and we cannot procreate without a man or his sperm. We were created to help our husbands succeed, and in the eyes of God we are man's equal. Are you agnostic? The greek dictionary difines agnostic as "ignoramous, stupid, etc..." Are you atheist? That word is a lie because if one doesn't believe in God the Father, as God, then one will place his or her belief in something else. Things like money, themselves, their job, their family, their car, their house, therefore that one thing is his or her god.

Repost this over in Faith Based & see how far you are can run with it. My guess, about 2 steps.

Re: Can't fight evolution
by JGC

“First of all, there are no "millions of years." God created the universe and everything in it in 6 days, just about 6,000 years ago.”

>>Abundant physical evidence—radio-isotoope dating, tree ring dendrochronology, glacial ice cores, fossil coral, rivere varves, etc.—falsifies young earth creation models. There is no evidence to support the premise that any living organisms arose as the result of divine supernatural creation and abundant evidence which supports the conclusion that the biological diversity we observe is the result of descent with modification.

“And yes, dinosaurs did roam the earth with mankind, read the bible.”

>>Again: physical evidence falsifies this claim, establishing that dinosaurs became extinct prior to the origin of human primates. We missed being contemporaries by more than 60 million years.

“Open a Bible and look in Job.”

>>You’re speaking as if the bible were known to possess some inherent authority, or that there’s reason to believe that it accurately describes actual historic events—why? The bible is scripture, not evidence, and it demosntrably describes events that can not have happened as literally described (that whole global catastrophic flood myth, for example).

“There was NO big bang, because something CANNOT be created from nothing.”

>>Actually, it appears it can: virtual particles have been observed to arise from quantum vacuum.

But if for the sake of argument we accept this as given, we must logically conclude that nothing could ever exist (since there could never be a 'first something' for the next something to come from.)

“You sir, contrary to what some hairy men believe, did NOT evolve from an ape, or goop from the bottom of the ocean that grew feet and walked on earth.”

>>No theory of evolutions states or predicts that humans descend from apes or that “goop from the bottom of the ocean grew feet and walked on earth”. Really—if you’re going to criticize evolutionary theories you should take the time to understand what do and do not say.

“It has been proven many times over.”

>>What has been proven many times, exactly, and where can I find these proofs?

“I do agree, women are the physically weaker sex, and we cannot procreate without a man or his sperm.”

>>In human species this appears to be the general case. Did you have point? How does the fact that human emales are physically weaker than human males argue in support of supernatural creation, or undermine evolution?

“We were created to help our husbands succeed, and in the eyes of God we are man's equal.”

>>What is the evidence that humans –male or female—were created at all?

“Are you agnostic? The greek dictionary difines agnostic as "ignoramous, stupid, etc..."

>>Personally, I’m Jewish.

“Are you atheist?”That word is a lie because if one doesn't believe in God the Father, as God, then one will place his or her belief in something else.”

>>I don’t see how that follows. Atheism is simply the position that no god or gods exist. I will note that it is possible to reject beleief in "God the Father, as God" without being an atheist--one could instead place theie faith in a different god or gods--the Hindu pantheon, for example, or the Wiccan Triune Goddess.

“Things like money, themselves, their job, their family, their car, their house, therefore that one thing is his or her god.” >>Not unless they ascribe to money, their job, etc., the supernatural abilities, transcendent conciousness, etc. , characterisitcally attributed to gods.

It isn’t necessary to ‘believe in’ money, by the way, any more than it’s neccessary to ‘believe in’ jobs, families, cars, houses, etc.: we know they exist. Presumably you’ve seen them? If not, take a field trip to your local bank—I’m sure you’ll see multiple individuals handling some money (and you’ll probably pass cars, houses and perhaps families on the way there.)

I'm grateful to evolution
by its yggy
for that line you can draw from a woman's neck to her heel. That's always ensured many, many boners from yours truly.
shhh!
by Isonomist
I think the two of them deserve each other.
Re: Can't fight evolution
by IncogNeato
JGC:

>>You’re speaking as if the bible were known to possess some inherent authority, or that there’s reason to believe that it accurately describes actual historic events—why? The bible is scripture, not evidence, and it demosntrably describes events that can not have happened as literally described (that whole global catastrophic flood myth, for example).

You know, of course, you're wasting your bandwidth trying to convince this person. His mind's made up, and he won't consider proof which doesn't conform to his preconceived notions.

I still don't get why people can't believe God could be powerful enough to create the Universe any way He wanted to. If he could be capable of creating it in 6 24-hour days, could he not also have been capable of developing it in 6 (more or less) epochs which people (who weren't there at the time in any version of creation) interpreted as days? Couldn't he be smart enough to have come up with evolution himself, to save himself some work, while he worked on other planets awhile?

Re: Can't fight evolution
by Freki

The OP said the "restorative procedure" is a possible key to a happy marriage. Do you think he was talking about that creepy re-virginization surgery, having a hymen rebuilt?

Cos I for one am against that. For two reasons:

1. Getting my cherry popped hurt like hell. No way would I go through a miserable surgery and healing process just so hubby could tear me some.

2. We need to get over the virginity obsession. Generally speaking, virgins (of either gender) are boring in the sack. Here's to a spouse who knows what they are doing!

Freki

Re: Can't fight evolution
by IncogNeato
Does he have a dozen or so kids in Texas state custody?
"We were created to help our husbands succeed."
by MessyONE

That has got to be the creepiest statement on this whole thread...think about it.

Why the hell would you marry some guy that's incapable of succeeding on his own? What would be the point of that? You marry some schmuck that can't wipe his ass without help, and then what? You spend your life propping up an idiot? Mmm, boy, that's a recipe for happiness!

Clearly I've been with the wrong person for 23 years. He's all about making sure WE succeed.

Eeeww. Now I know what kind of woman marries the testosterone-poisoned losers, and I never want to meet them in person.

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