If she stays in Obama will have a built in network in all 50 states and no one will ever be able to say a woman can't campaign all the way through.

Also she cannot say anything other than what she said on her electability with "hardworking Americans, white Americans" because 90% of the black vote is universally going to Obama. If she claimed all working class people everyone would jump down her throat because they have made it clear that she is NOT carrying the black vote.

So perhaps if you could all just get your head out of the recycled Rove talking points that I heard in 1992 you might want to remember that she is the FIRST woman to have come this far and if she can afford to stay in till the last primary she guarantees funding for future women. I would expect if the roles were reversed Mr. Obama would stay in until the end to prove the FIRST viable black candidate could do it to. And I would support that too.

Please let go of the hate for a little while, especially if you support Obama, just get out of your own heads for a minute and think of the whole party and something past November this year.

Especially all the post-feminists who were "any woman but Hillary" -- if you really want a decent future woman to run, stop acting like "Citizen's United Not Timid."*

*Actual anti-Hillary political group

And the more dignity she brings to the remainder of her campaign, and to its inevitable end, the better that history would be.

Unfortunately, some of her recent comments are far from dignified.

It may not have occurred to you that Obama doesn't need Hillary's help to be organized. Field organization is a strength of his campaign.

Thank you for the first, and only rational, argument I've heard for her staying in.

Of course, I'm not sure how many presidential candidates ever do run in all 50 states in a primary. I mean it's usually decided long before Guam, if you see what I mean.

If you read about the all the new voters with all the lovely pundits you will see that

a. Obama has outmaneuvered her on the ground by building grassroots organizations in every state in the primary race. He is energizing his base against her but also laying a proven groundwork and identifying strengths and weaknesses in all 50 states long before the general election. He doesn't need her to organize, but the Democratic party needs him to do what he's doing. He wouldn't have the same energized new voter base in the remaining states if the primary doesn't go there. Remember we didn't win the last tow because it was too close. This can fix that.

b. if you get all 50 states to feel like they care they will be more likely to vote in November so the Dems will be able to keep the proportional advantage they have currently over the Repubs in registered voters. You might not like it, but I promise you the real Democratic Party that also has to carry congress does.

c. I don't thing the supers are staying neutral because they think she can win and I don't think she's delusional either. I think the Dems have the first strategic advantage in forever and they are using Clinton on purpose to make Obama stronger in November by having the largest registered voter numbers in history and using that to counteract the usual financial and organizational advantage Repubs have in the general since the 60's. . If they really wanted it over they could have made it done by now, they haven't on purpose because of the long game and I'll bet Clinton knows and may be in on it. Maybe Dean is really our version of Rove and started working this angle after Super Tuesday. Everybody was sure he was a genius the last time.

Or maybe that's why she's bitter enough to be clumsy, because she's taking one for the fricking team again. Just like the entire 90's. So maybe the millenial chicks will have a chance to prove how much better than her they are later.

BTW most people don't vote in my state cause we haven't made a difference in a primary ever. But they registered this year. Don't dismiss what actually exists.

Obama will still have to build a stronger grassroots org in New York, Ohio and PA, and how good is his ground game in Michigan and Florida? I don't know. Do you?

The theory that Hillary Clinton is a necessary sparring partner ( a sort of George Chuvalo) to get Obama ready for the General is cute, but untrue. He needs to be doing the stuff McCain is diong right now -- and in fact he's doing it while still running a primary campaign on the side.

For the good of the party (REALLY) the supers need to step in and end this farce, if HRC won't end it on her own.

BTW, Gedraldine Ferraro ran in all fifty states, and what did that teach her? Not much, apparently.

Oxboggle writes

BTW, Geraldine Ferraro ran in all fifty states, and what did that teach her? Not much, apparently

No Geraldine Ferraro did not run in all 50 states Walter Mondale did.

And Geraldine never ran in a national primary for national office. She was selected by Mondale after he secured the nomination, she was a local state politician and was selected to make Mondale look like a more "with it" candidate. It didn't work and Anderson was a spoiler in that election as well. Ferraro was the first woman to make it as a veep candidate but she had less experience and name recognition than Obama at the start of 2007.

She's actually a good warning for Sebelius. She shouldn't take a veep spot with Obama she should hold out and run on her own in 2016. Being a female veep candidate buys you nothing in the long term, it makes you look like a token. It discredits you later. Doubly so in this one.

Obama/Biden if there's no unity ticket.

I have to say, I've thought about the Obama/Clinton ticket a lot. It has a couple of problems. (no not Obama and Clinton.)

#1 I think both Obama and Clinton would be happiest if they didn't have to see each other for the next few years. Seriously, after this sort of hard fought, tooth and nail primary, they're not exactly best buddies at the moment. They'll still support the other ones candidacy because they're both democrats, but it strains credibility that they're going to be super enthusiastic about each other right now.

#2 They're both big state East Coast democrats. This limits what they can bring to each others tickets in terms of geographic diversity.

#3 They're both pretty liberal democrats, with some support from moderates and almost no military expertise. We're in a war, and someone with a bit of gray hair and more military background would do either of them good on a ticket, but it's hard to see where they can help each other much in this arena.

I'm not saying that there might not be some upsides for both of them, just that politically there are some fairly serious downsides.