...usually folks who claim they weren't being "racist," are fully aware of the "racist" quality of their remarks. The funny thing about racists is that they know they are.

I don't have any hesitation in calling Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill racists. No, they don't wear pointy hoods and burn crosses in people's yards -- as far as I know... I mean I don't think there is any basis to believe that, unless there is. But Bill and Hillary -- after spending their "formative years" (Bill) and impressionable adulthood (Bill and Hillary) in Little Rock, Arkansas (that bastion of racial harmony) know the politics of racism. They know how to play both sides of the fence: they will claim an affinity with black people to get their votes. Behind closed doors they reassure their white supporters that "nothing has or ever will change."

Hillary has been trying to say that Barack can't win white votes. However, the key constituency she has needed to be able to win -- she's LOST 31 contests with varying percentages of black voters and OVERWHELMING majorities of white voters -- are black voters. What happened? She and her "black husband" Bill were supposed to be so comfortable with us black folk.

This has little to do with working, hard-working Americans, BLACK Americans voting as a bloc, just voting blindly to support the black guy. This has to do with the fundamental understanding of who the Clintons are. Black Americans are always wary of white politicians -- of either party -- who promise loads and deliver little, The Clintons are no different. And when they started using coded language at the beginning of this race to describe Barack Obama, we took notice.

John Dickerson should have noticed right around April 19 -- when just about every blog (like HuffPo) trumpeted Hillary saying, "He Can't Win!" Hence George Stephanopolous asking her directly "Can Barack Obama beat John McCain?" Her answer? "Yes, Yes, Yes, BUT...!!!!"

What Hillary said the other day was not caused by "sleep deprivation". She didn't get any 3 a.m. phone call unless it came from David Duke. She knew -- knows -- exactly the message she wanted to deliver: If you don't want to vote for the black guy, and don't want to be called a racist, just say it's because you think OTHER AMERICANS are racists and will not vote for him 6 months from now because -- "Did you know? He's BLACK!!!! So if the Dems lose, don't blame me... I told you... He can't win... He can't win BECAUSE HE'S BLACK!!!!"

For decades blacks have voted overwhelmingly fo the Clintons. Then this year we find them suddenly switching overwhelmingly to support a black candidate. That's racism. The Clintons never did anything against black people ever. They just dared to run for office against Obama.

They aren't racist; they're just unprincipled. That is to say they are willing to appeal to the racism of others to gain their objectives and it doesn't bother them in the least that those they appeal to have really bad attitudes.

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For decades blacks have voted overwhelmingly fo the Clintons. Then this year we find them suddenly switching overwhelmingly to support a black candidate. That's racism. The Clintons never did anything against black people ever. They just dared to run for office against Obama.

No...it's voting for WHOMEVER THE FUCK YOU WISH TO VOTE FOR!

Did you happen to notice that, oh, at least two or three WHITE PEOPLE voted for Barack Obama? Apparently quite a few people actually think he's a good candidate. It isn't just the dirty Ni**ers that have done such a rotten thing to Hillary.

I do wonder though, what should we do with all those SEXIST WOMEN who voted for Hillary (those same women who, DAMMIT, had supported a MAN during the last election)??

You are not the best representative for Obama. Please refrain from I mean keep commenting as more sexist women and racists will not vote for McCain in the fall.

<snark> please keep proving my assessment of Obama supportes correct!

You know Hillary Clinton isn't a racist, you're just being intellectually lazy. She has simply stated a fact - there are a lot more white working class people in America than there are black voters and college graduates. Obama's campaign is built around two minority groups and all the incoherent raving and exclamation marks in the world won't change it. Americans ARE racists but the white working class are racist because they've been denied anything approaching a real education, treated like shit and encouraged to blame black Americans and all those dang ferriners for their truly deplorable and unjust situation instead of blaming fascists like Bush and Cheney and the long line of what a politician in my country once called a 'conga line of suckholes'.A long line of - pardon my French- fucking bastards who insist on formulating social policies that make scrooge and Jack the Ripper look warm and cuddly and who believe absolutely in divide and conquer. You, of course, have fallen for their evil plan. People like Rupert Murdoch and other masturbators of the universe are the real problem, not Hillary Clinton. Where's your rage about them? Why is so much hatred and passion directed at a woman who was crucified by the aforementioned fascists for trying to introduce something approaching a humane health care system in America. A woman who is on your side, for Christ's sake. If this is how you treat fellow 'liberals' because you fear you may not get your own way, God help America. When McCain's in the White House you'll have lots of time to regret sacrificing commonsense for emotional overkill and yes, racism. It works both ways you know.

"Did you happen to notice that, oh, at least two or three WHITE PEOPLE voted for Barack Obama?"

That is exactly the point. Many white people have voted FOR Obama. He won wide majorities in some disctricts where very few black people live. In contrast very few black voters have voted for Clinton. Less than 10% in the majority of the primaries. Blacks have supported her in the past and there is very little difference in her and Obama's political policies. So what could be the reason? Oh and to further strengthen my observations; very few black women voted for Clinton. So I guess racism trumps sexism.

of my points -- although you didn't mean to do so.

Thanks to the determined 'spin' of the press and the machinations of the DNC the Clintons are now considered Black-hating racists.

You jackasses hanging on my every post with your gang-bang, group-think denials and hate-based rants are gradually going to discover that I am mostly correct about these things most of the time.

What bothers you about my posts is that they are outside your comfort zone. They haven't been vetted and pre-approved by your cultural and sociological leaders. I never get into real arguments with independent thinkers, only with hysterical pack animals determined to defend their 'ideological' turf whether or not their position is rational.

Yet you wonder why I consider you political children.

The Clintons of all people are now considered Black-Hating racists. You Obamacrats, however, see no way that deliberate political maneuver by the people doing your thinking for you could ever come back to bite you on the behind.

Similarly, G.W. Bush supporters never thought things could turn so sour for them either. Funny how the fanatics of both parties seem so very much alike now in their tactics and thought patterns. How could there ever be problems with that?

been brought out on the XX-factor blog.

The tale was told wherein a small clutch of women got together for some serious talk and it turned out that the Black woman considered her Blackness to be massively more important and significant in her life than the fact that she was female. She was, in the final analysis, a racist and had just been using her 'sisters' for whatever advantage she could get from membership in their emotional support group, otherwise known as good friends.

The women were shocked to realize that they had been used all along for whatever value could be gained from their 'friendship' but that they had never actually been respected or valued as individuals in their own right by their Black 'sister'. Being GOOD liberal women, however, they then nearly snapped their spines making excuses for their Black 'sister.'

No, of course it's not always that way. Some Black women must actually like and respect their White female friends. but, as the conversation developed after this shocking revelation, the Black 'sister' revealed that this racism was not at all uncommon among the other Black women she knew.

This myth that Blacks CANNOT BE racist is not doing anyone any favors. Lies are never particularly helpful and liberals need to grow the hell up just a little bit about this issue.

I suggest that to an oppressed minority--and I think we can't help but agreeing that both blacks and women still suffer at least SOME level of oppression--it is not necessarily racism to vote for someone from your "group". Women are not necessarily sexists--that is, they don't believe that women are inherent superior to men, or believe that they ought to be treated in a superior fashion--just because they vote for Hillary. They're simply more likely to identify with her and her life experiences. Similarly, blacks aren't necessarily racists if they support Obama. There are certainly some sexist women voting for Hillary, and some racist blacks voting for Obama, just as there are some sexist men voting against Hillary and some racist whites, Asians, Hispanics, etc. voting against Obama.

Artificially conflating "racism" and "sexism" with identification with a group of people is semantic nonsense and weakens the connotation of the terms so that they're less powerful when applied to actual racists or sexists.

Jade7243,you are spot on in your assessment.Right around the South Carolina primary,the Clintons decided that the Black vote would be tossed to the wind with their use of the race card.