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Black racism accounts for
by Gatewood
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the North Carolina win. You know that. We know that. No journalist, however, has got the guts or the ethics to voice that fact.

When Blacks vote for a non-black by a ninety percent lock-step vote then we can remove the charge of racism.

Oh I know, I know that you knee jerk children will call me a racist for pointing out a naked emperor pretending to be clothed in public, but then dishonest people always resort to smearing the messenger in order to refute the message.

In bald terms, we have a nation of racists selecting the Democratic Party's nominee and no one in the national press will call them on this.

In a few years down the line history books, however, will make it very plain precisely what happened when they list the simple and irrefutable statistic that ninety percent of Blacks voted for Obama. Even high school and college students can put it together from that point, realizing that if Obama had been everything he is by way of a speech maker and so forth BUT Asian or Hispanic, Native American, or White then Blacks WOULD NOT have voted for him by a ninety percent ratio. Racism.

So racists probably ARE going to select the Democratic Party's nominee and the Democratic party's leadership and the national press are wholly on line and happy with that prospect. I find that very interesting considering that the one thing the Democratic Party is not supposed to represent is racism.

On a different note, however, I am grateful for Obama and for a byper biased national press [cheer leading Obama into the nominee's slot] for at last ending the fiction that Blacks cannot be racist simply because they are Blacks.

It doesn't end here, however, and nor should it. In a decade or two it will be the Hispanic's turn to put a candidate into the nominee's slot or into the presidency simply because he or she is a Hispanic. This is a GOOD thing. Until we admit that minorities can also possess the full range of human traits -- the BAD as well as the good -- then we are doing nothing more than patronizing them.

Blacks are collectively revealing that they can be lock-step racists. Well good for them. We can welcome them at last to full-fledged citizenship. They now have proven that they too can be utter assholes . . . just like any majority.

Re: Black racism accounts for
by Machete

You make an interesting case.

If what you say is true, then the best way to show them the error of their ways is for rural and working class whites to vote for Obama. It will go a long way to undermining reactionary racism in minorities by showing that the oft-maligned rural and working class whites do not in fact care about the race of a candidate.
That he doesn't have to disguise his cultural differences or mute his racial heritage.

You've brought up a great idea here ... let's spread this approach around and see if it can lead to the racial unity you and I are clearly aching for and that we can only get past tit-for-tat racial diviseness.


Re: Black racism accounts for
by Cswerve

Fell better Gatewood? I hope so. Your ranting does not change the fact however. Even if 100% of the black population voted for Obama, it alone still would not be enough to secure him the nomimation so your assertion that "So racists probably ARE going to select the Democratic Party's nominee" is ludicrous.

So you look at it your way, and I'll look at it this way...

...Obama is a UNITER even within the black community where their participation in previous elections have been painfully lacking.

Re: Black racism accounts for
by fivefouls1987

Let me guess, every Obama voter is sexist too.

Is it wrong for a voting bloc who is heavily composed of people who share in the same struggles that Obama has gone through to vote for him? It's not just a black-white thing. Hillary doesn't understand the struggles of a lot of the black community whether it be the lack of supporting fathers or the struggle to make it in a dangerous neighborhood. Obama worked on the streets of Southside Chicago and was brought up without a father. Could it be that they identify with him in a way that they never could with Hillary?

Don't get me wrong, this is only one portion of the black community, but it is a significant portion. Obama has pledged to change that more than HIllary has, and his history is indicative of that.


Personally I intend to resort to
by Gatewood

simple common sense. If Hillary drops out of the race then I will vote for Obama simply so that John McCain cannot stack the Supreme Court with more red-neck conservatives.

Meanwhile I shan't pretend that Blacks are NOT being racists nor that the press and the DNC are NOT trying their utmost to make Obama the nominee.

In truth the only reason that I am not pro-Obama is because we are already in a war crisis and heading into a dramatic economic crisis and I believe that Hillary and her EXPERIENCED political machine is the better candidate to handle those issues. I don't vote for racial reasons or for emotional reasons. I vote for cold, hard practical reasons.

So if Hillary drops out of the race Obama will become my candidate. Until then, however, he is the second best.

Don't be a bigot.
by Gatewood

"Hillary doesn't understand the struggles of a lot of the black community whether it be the lack of supporting fathers or the struggle to make it in a dangerous neighborhood."

She grew up in a bubble and never fought for Civil Rights legislation or for abortion rights or did anything at all but bask in being WHITE and therefore automatically SAFE and PROTECTED from any and all HARM or HARDSHIPS?

Stop being a bigot. Yes, even if you are a White poster you are being a bigot here by making the sort of BLANKET and ARROGANT and BLIND statement that you made above.

It's non-thinkers like you that sometimes make me despair of posting on these fray boards. I run into so many, many posters like you. I mean do you idiots go to stupidity classes?

Re: Don't be a bigot.
by janna1g
They're SUPPOSED to go to stupidity classes, but they ditch them.
Heh-heh! Good point.
by Gatewood

Sigh! I am not going to bother
by Gatewood

'splaining how this has worked because you have already made up your mind and I would therefore be wasting time and effort.

I learned long, long ago that I cannot make inveterate non-thinkers change their fantasy scenario and rose-colored glasses ways. Either a person is a cold hard and practical realist or they are not. You are not and the twain shall never meet.

Still rest assured that if Hillary drops out of the race then I shall hold my nose and vote for Obama because I don't want John McCain to continue stacking the Supreme Court with conservative red-neck judges.

Feel better? Utterly confused? I am a realist, that's why, and you are incapable of understanding, or of dealing with, realists.

knee jerk child here
by Lunasol

I wasn't going to respond to this drivel, but the the OP pulled my absolute favorite rhetorical tool ever, the one prized by people who know they're wrong, which is to anticipate the reasonable objections to one's argument, and preemptively insult those who might make such an argument.

Hey, OP, just some free advice - if you make a convincing argument, you don't need to resort to name-calling. If you have to name-call to make your point, you're either wrong or you're doing an enormous disservice to your argument.

Re: Black racism accounts for
by BLACKMOSES
Bullshit.Sore loser.Since blacks were finally allowed to vote,they have voted for the candidate or party who best represented their interests whether he/she was white or black.
Re: Black racism accounts for
by doodahman

My, what an incredibly stupid point. The fact is, until Clinton decided to inject race as an issue (1. Barack only won South Carolina because of the niggers; 2. Barack is an affirmative action nigger himself, which accounts for his white support; 3. white blue collar voters won't vote for him because he's a nigger; 3. he's a closet Black Panther devotee to the nigger Rev. Jeremiah X), she led in support among black voters. Not to mention the fact that Black voters have voted 80% for every fucking white ass democratic candidate since we bothered to protect their right to vote. You idiot.

Clinton, whose husband was supposed to be the first black president, shit on that constituency and did it largely on purpose-- as a way to drive a wedge between black and white democrats hoping that by driving away white votes and casting Barack as merely an unelectable black candidate, she could convince (largely white) superdelegates to ignore the popular vote total and the delegate total and hand it to her, the white candidate. You know, just like any other fucking GOPig piece of shit.

Which was a losing strategy. Why? Because Obama gets 40-50% of the white vote, you stupid fuck. Picking out North and South Carolina out of the other 30 plus states Obama won, almost all of which had less than a 10% black population, is a sign of your intellectual bankruptcy and insistence on scaring other stupid white fucks like you that somehow, they are going to be left out by an Obama administration.

Go join the GOPigs where you belong, you racist sack of shit.

So says someone calling himself
by Gatewood

BLACKMOSES. Racist, get it yet?

No you don't because you have blinded yourself to reality. You ARE a racist and I find it funny that you propose to lecture others on . . . racism.

Nonetheless Blacks ARE being racists in a huge voting block. I find this funny rather than tragic however. I have no problem with their blatant racism. but I'll also consider it funny when in a decade or so Hispanics gang-vote THEIR special candidate into office and [probably] Blacks will howl about how racist Hispanic voters are being.

It's the human condition. You CAN be a racist and you are. Welcome to full citizenship at last.

Re: Don't be a bigot.
by fivefouls1987

It's not a blanket assumption. I'm not talking about white people, I'M TALKING ABOUT HILLARY.

Tell me, when did Hillary work on the streets of a black neighborhood trying to personally bring jobs back? When did Hillary's family go on food stamps? Why should a voter who identifies with that be called racist for voting for a man who has done that?

Hillary DID serve on a board for WalMart; Hillary did have a particularly blessed life as far as income goes. And you know what, that's her perogative, and in many ways out of her control. But don't call a group of people racist just because they identify with a man who can certainly empathize with their struggle more than she could.

At least you know what you are
by Gatewood

and so I don't have to point it out to you. Hint, mind-child, when you know that infantile people are going to attack you for your message you preempt them by pointing it out up front.

This flusters them and throws them off stride -- if they are functioning with so few brain cell working as someone like -- well -- like yourself, for instance.

It's so frequently utilized as a tactic because it works. Naturally it does not work against everyone, But even the ones that CAN think have to either go about a rebuttal in a different manner than they would have wanted OR appear to be the asses they actually are by issuing a knee-jerk rebuttal anyway.

It separates the wheat from the chaff. You are the chaff.

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