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I'd like to see the
by Gatewood

latest "We hate Hillary" excuse of the ultra-Liberal bloggers in context; but you know something? I don't give a flying, flipping fuck about you Hillary Haters and Obama worshipers anymore.

This nomination race has been tainted by blatant media bias for Obama and the corrupt practices of the DNC, which has been-in-the-tank for Obama from the get go. So you assholes just go ahead and take whatever the hell you want out of context and label Hillary a racist just because she is daring to fight back against Obama in a stinking damn POLITICAL RACE!

Re: I'd like to see the
by Mujokan
Clinton said that she can get white, blue-collar voters that will otherwise go to McCain, and that this demographic is significant enough to make her more electable than Obama.

I'm seriously trying to think of a defense to the claim that she's saying she has the white racist Democrat vote, but it's a bit difficult. I think I'd go with "I got confused"! You have to find some reason why white blue-collar voters would go with Hillary, but not with Obama, that's not down to race. The problem is that there is such a stark difference between McCain and the two Democrats that it's hard to think of anything.

I would explain it to you
by Gatewood

but then you would shake it off and go right back to being a Hillary hater. I'm not going to waste my time or do your thinking for you.

If you, a college educated adult, are so lacking in intellectual capacity or development that you cannot fathom any other answers then this pretty much highlights either your attitude or your intelligence; both of which are lamentably part and parcel [apparently] of being Obamacrats.

Too many people turned the quest for making Obama the nominee into a religious experience and these are the results. Thought goes out the window.

I know what is going to happen after Obama is 'given' the nomination. McCain is going to become president. We went from a guaranteed win with Hillary Clinton to McCain becoming president with Obama. This is because Obama liberals fundamentally do not understand people.

Congratulations.

Now you may return to joyfully crucifying Hillary Clinton.

Re: I would explain it to you
by Mujokan

You didn't actually provide any further explanation for the comment that might explain why she wasn't saying she had the white racist Democrat vote.

If she'd been just talking about the primary race, I could give an argument why her comments were justified.

"I was referring not to whites voting for me based on race, but working-class blacks voting for Obama based on race. That's skewed the working class vote. If not for that, the working class would all vote for me, because I understand them better than Obama"

- Doesn't that mean you are calling blacks racist for voting for Obama?

"No, they have legitimate reasons for voting for him. People vote on their interests. Working class people vote for me because I represent them better than Obama, but Obama's election would have a positive effect on race relations. Therefore it's fine for working class black people to vote disproportionately for Obama. Though I represent their economic interests better, he represents some of their other interests."

- OK, I see, you were just saying that white working class people don't have the reasons for voting for Obama that black working class people do. Thank you, Mrs. Clinton.

The problem was that she was talking about the general election, where there's a much bigger gulf between McCain and Obama. You can't just splice in "McCain" into the above argument.

I think what happened was that she got a bit confused between the primary campaign and the election campaign. I think it's crazy to say that Hillary is actually a racist! I could never believe that of her. Unfortunately her comments didn't make any sense, and can be interpreted as her saying the Democrats should back her over Obama out of fear of the white racist Democrats defecting to McCain.

"a guaranteed win with Hillary Clinton"
by itspattee
There is no guaranteed win in any election. Hillary Clinton is no better or worse than Obama and for you to complain that others crucify her while crucifying Obama yourself is amusing.
Re: I would explain it to you
by eofiss
The problem lies not with Obama. The problem is that last summer Hillary had a double-digit lead over all the other candiates for the nomination combined, and somehow managed to lose it. This is the woman who would beat McCain?
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