So Hillary might be able to win in West Virginia and Kentucky? So what. She has lost the election. What's more she has divided the party so that McCain, who shouldn't have a chance in Hell of winning in November is a viable candidate, at least for now.

It's clear that Hillary doesn't care about the party. She doesn't care about the direction of the country. She doesn't care about the will of the voters. All she does seem to care about is herself.

She is a US Senator. A position held by only 100 American citizens at any one time. This is a tremendous accomplishment. She wanted to be president too but it became apparent for most people some time ago that this simply wasn't going to happen for her in this election at least.

She has already gained a postion that 99.9% of politicians never make it to. She wanted to go even higher and that's understandable. People don't get elected to the US Senate without big egos and tremendous ambition.

Nevertheless there can be only one president at a time. There's no shame in coming in a close second for the nomination but there is if you bring your party down with you.

Keep posting stuff like this if you want to bring your party down with you.

It's one thing to be a sore loser, but a sore *winner*?!

Keep it up.

McCain O8?

No kidding.

At best, Obama has achieved a mathematical victory (not too unlike Bush in 2000). There was no knockout. There was nothing decisive about this nomination.

Jams:

No kidding.

At best, Obama has achieved a mathematical victory (not too unlike Bush in 2000). There was no knockout. There was nothing decisive about this nomination.

And yet you agree that Obama has won the nomination? I don't have any problem with Hillary staying in even if she has no chance of winning. What I do have a problem with is all of the negative campaigning against Obama.

The line about how whe and McCain were qualified to lead the country but Obama wasn't was, in itself, unforgivable. She may has well came right out and said if Obama wins then vote for McCain. If she really means that then why isn't she running as a Republican?

As for comapring this to 2000? There's no comparison. Obama has a commanding delegate lead and a popular vote lead as well. In 2000 George Bush lost the popular vote but "won" because of the winner take all Electoral college.

It does not need to be this freaking personal people! It is not HIM vs. HER. It is democrat vs. democrat, and one of them had to win.

And they're both pretty well vetted by now, and they both are senators, and they both have nearly identical voting records, and they have both said that they will support whoever the eventual nominee is.

So guess what, in this scandalously tight democratic primary...a democrat won. I mean, seriously, it's exactly that unexpected. One of them won. Now let's do what democrats HAVE NOT DONE in years. PULL TOGETHER AND WIN.

Obama supporters..STOP GLOATING.

Hillary supporters..STOP COMPLAINING.

If hillary supporters really want to have an impact, then why don't you guys pick your 2 favorite policy positions of hers that you feel Obama doesn't adequately deal with and e-mail them to him? If that many people make a rational appeal to a candidate, who does need you in November, maybe he'll decide to alter his ideas. Seriously, he's all about being a voice for the people, so tell him how to be a good voice for you too.

And no, it is not appropriat to insist he drop out, he is winning.

scum sucking, hate-ridden Obama supporters like you that are beginning to convince many angry Hillary supporters to vote for John McCain or simply abstain from voting if Hillary should drop out of the race. So congratulations for helping the Republican Party win this race after all.

Say, are you a card carrying member of Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos movement? He is looking for scum bags like you.

Gatewood,

Could you mention whose post you're replying to, please. It's getting confusing.

order to see precisely who's addressing whom. This is not difficult to do and it removes confusion.

Thank You..I've never done that. I was kinda going nuts trying to figure out what I said :)

way that makes sense for serious posters.

Nicely put, Thevail. I believe that Hillary will vigorously support Obama when he becomes the nominee. It's the right thing to do, but also what she has to do to foster her own future political career. A cabinet position for her in an Obama administration I view as a real possibility, and a welcome one.

What we cannot have is the third Bush term, via McCain. Four more years like the last eight? A hideous thought. We have to pull together, to have a celebration -- and a huge sigh of relief -- on 1/20/09.

It's going to be really hard.

I have sat through months and months of listening to people dismiss or denigrate Hillary Clinton's accomplishments and her intelligence. They've questioned her right to hold a position in politics despite the fact that she is just as, if nor more, intelligent and qualified as any other Senator who does or who has ever held office. They've insulted the intelligence of the state of New York, they've accused her supporters of being yokel hicks, they've embraced their own socioeconomic privilege as a sign of being more informed, more intelligent, and superior human beings. They've compared her to George W. Bush merely based on her age and her skin color. They've dismissed the entire role of policy in determining the best candidate altogether. Every success she had in the primaries was dismissed, every loss was gloated over. Every sneaky tactic used by their candidate was glossed over or ignored, every tactic (whether sneaky or not) employed by Clinton was lambasted. Every time Clinton made a counter-argument or pointed out a discrepancy, she was "unhinged." Despite the ridiculously close vote count and the obvious dismissal of the importance of Michigan and Florida, Clinton was judged an egomaniac for staying in a race that she had every right (and an obligation) to stay in.

They've insulted her looks, her body, her clothing, and her voice. They've called her "Shrillary," "Lady McBeth," "an old mare," and "a bitch." They've devalued, or dismissed entirely, the historical importance of her candidacy. They've exaggerated and embraced obviously false innuendo and re-hashed unsubstantiated accusations with such ferocity that it would make Newt Gingrich proud. At the same time, they've rationalized or ignored how obviously sexist the nature of their attacks (and much of the press coverage) were.

I'm sorry, but I am, and I'm sure many Democratic women are, *incredibly* offended by the actions of my own party. Sexism is obviously very much alive and well in American society. This primary has been absolutely disgusting.

Someone has to answer for it.

Amen.

For the good of the country, I will vote against McCain

But the Obama campaign and the Democratic party should not look for my check. It is not, nor will it ever be, in the mail.

And what did Obama have - a cake walk? As Hillary has reminded you numerous times - he is a black man. And he is educated. According to the book of Hillary, those are the two attributes that make him unelectable. Even though she grew up on Chicago's North Shore and attended two schools for the financially priviledged, Obama was painted as the elitist. And her path through life was extremely difficult - being Bill's wife and enjoying the visibility and benefits that his success provided.

Maybe the big difference between Hillary and Obama is that it appears that she talks down to her audience whereas he talks to his audience. With Hillary it is the "I" that prevails in her speech. With Obama, it is the "we". Having charisma and a personality isn't a bad thing.

It is going to be really hard.

For both sides.

He's been accused of being a muslim, a racist, an idiot, an elitist, etc.too.

Obama supporters have been called robots, idiots, naive, etc. for believing in their candidate. And we didn't like it any better than Hillary supporters liked the insults hurled at them.

Feelings have ridden very high, because either candidate would have represented a certain kind of change. And the democratic party REALLY WANTS change. But we don't necessarily agree on what kind of change.

But we're allowed to disagree. Disagreeing with someone doesn't mean you hate them. I like red, but that doesn't mean I think you're an idiot for liking yellow better. Nor should you think I'm an idiot for liking red more. They're just our individual opinions, nothing more nor less.

And, it would be nice if someone had to answer for "it", but that's like the war on terror, only the "war on character defamation" would be just as nebulous, just as diffused and just as ineffective. I mean seriously, which specific person could answer for all this nastiness on both sides.

Hmmm. Maybe we could lynch Karl Rove..I mean that really would just make everybody feel better.

But instead, can't we please just forgive if not forget or vice-versa. Our country needs us, our economy needs us, our soldiers need us. Now is not the time to destroy the democratic party.