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orwell was only partly right
by Fenella

the basic message of socialism, that you can take something that belongs to another to benefit yourself is resisted by those who imagine things being taken from them. When I hear someone talking about distribution of income, I know that person has no intention of giving up anything. I know no rich person will ever be made to give up anything. I know that person is thinking how I am supposed to give up what I have. It means that if I save enough money to buy a boat, some bureacrat will decide I don't really "need" it and take it. I realize that there will always be injustice. I would rather have the injustice of capitalism, which affords me freedom, that the greater injustice of socialism, which would rob me.

Historically, capitalism has done more for people than socialism. it is the former that lifted living standards, so that the poor person in a western country is rich by the standards of the rest of the world. We all know this. What will socialism do for me, make the government pay for me to take a cruise? Force someone out of their house, so I can live in it? Capitalism enables me to pay for my own cruise and house.

at least, this is the viewpoint of the white so called poor. blacks may be socialist, but that is only because they imagine something will be taken from whites. they don't imagine they will lose anything. if they did, they would not be socialists.

Re: orwell was only partly right
by confetti
Yeah, but man, I NEED that boat. Come on. Be a mensch.
Re: orwell was only partly right
by confetti

Or at least the cruise. Maybe I could be, like, the nanny? Porter? You want me to DIE without ever having taken a CRUISE??

(You don't have much of an idea of what socialism is. I am making fun of you. In case you didn't notice.)

Re: orwell was only partly right
by Inquisitor
Your sarcasm is cowardly and nonsensical. If you have a cogent argument make it. Else, quite this fray forthwith.
Re: orwell was only partly right
by confetti
It is not my task to teach political science. You misrepresent the principles of socialism hilariously and grossly. There is, I think, nothing to be done about it. So, I maka da joke. Deal with it, friend.
Re: orwell was only partly right
by Inquisitor
Apparently you missed that I was not the original poster but rather a frayster who is appalled by your bankrupt style of discourse.
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