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Obama Is Not Electable
by mabelle55

Poll after poll since late March shows Obama slipping nationally and in GE matchups with McCain.

Even before the Wright contretemps he was losing blue-collar working class voters and female voters - especially those over 40.

Polls also indicate that Obama is now losing support of Independents in GE matchups, to the tune of 30% to McCain. He doesn't make up these losses among women and seniors and working class voters. And Democrats - true Democrats - go for Hillary Clinton by close to 70% over Obama.

Don't you think this says something about electability? I do. The SDs do, too, which is part of the reason that 40% have been waiting and watching.

Now SDs are concerned about the electability question. Howard Dean also said that SDs will look at electability in their decision. Frankly, I think this is the best measure. Perhaps no one group wins under such "rules", but it means that judgment (rather than any other measure) comes into play in their decision.

Finally, Obama's coattails in the Fall (if he is the nominee) may actually hurt, not help other Democrats. It's an unfortunate fact of life that Jeremiah Wright is now part of the picture in this election. He might not have been so had Obama taken some sort of diplomatic action back in 2007 when the two knew that Wright might be problematic; or early on when the tapes were looping on television. He didn't. Instead, he hesitated. He may have been "thoughtful", but he did not act. This indicates that his judgment is questionable. He's young and naive in the political realm. He does not have the political experience necessary for POTUS. In eight years he will.

Frankly, I wish Barack Obama would see the handwriting on the wall for November and realize he cannot win, instead of trying to push his own "fairy tale".

Re: Obama Is Not Electable
by DHeath

Mabelle,

I agree with your assessment. There are three candidates still in the hunt. Clinton is the centrist, and the one most electable.

Re: Obama Is Not Electable
by pwoxby

@ mabelle55:

"Don't you think this says something about electability?"

No, and here's why. Six months ago it was November and Hillary Clinton was leading all other Democratic candidates in the national polls by 20 points. The press had anointed her as the "inevitable" Democratic nominee. How did that turn out?

Today Clinton and Barack Obama are engaged in an increasingly bitter and divisive fight. Meanwhile John McCain continues to bask in his honeymoon period as the presumptive Republican nominee.

Even with this huge temporary advantage, McCain is at best tied with a Democrat yet to be selected. This should make McCain and the GOP very, very concerned. When McCain and Obama go toe-to-toe debating real issues of concern to the voters, McCain's polls will sink like a stone.

Obama 08!

Re: Obama Is Not Electable
by spackle
It's a long time until November. The Dems went for electability with Kerry and look where that got them. Until the Repub and Dem candidates really start going toe to toe, the head-to-head poll stuff is useful only for an indication of sentiment, not for making decisions.
Re: Obama Is Not Electable
by OpusMagnus

PWOXBY


You make specious arguments with highly subjective and selective anecdotal evidence. We get it: you Love Obama and want him to President. That loyalty is highly commendable, But this is not the student council

You are sure of the outcome for Obama, have the courage of your convictions and agree that democracy demands that the primaries should go forward until this time next month. Then we will gather in Denver To coalesce around the winner of the roll call ballot there. It's just not over until then. That way Democrats and not just one half of the Democrats will be satisfied.

It's neither subjective, specious nor optimistic love-babble: it's fact.

GO DEMOCRATS !

Re: Obama Is Not Electable
by pwoxby

"You make specious arguments with highly subjective and selective anecdotal evidence."

Saying that doesn't make it so. What argument is specious? What evidence is selective and anecdotal? As for your ad hominem, is that all you got?

Obama 08!

Re: Obama Is Not Electable
by Independent Military Spouse

You really think that a candidate (Hillary Clinton) who has steadily had an almost 50% unfavorable rating nationwide can be elected ?

Also you make the point that she holds traditional Democrats. I agree - With Hillary Clinton we would have a traditional Red State/Blue State contest just like the last two (Kerry & Gore) with the split so close that we are worrying about battlegrounds states again with each candidate just trying to get 51%.

With Barack Obama the Democrats actually had a change to have a different kind of election winning many states that in the past had gone for the Republican, pushing many states into the purple catagory. This tread would have helped all Democrats on the ballot in those states.

Instead the Democrats (& TV pundits) have supported Hillary Clinton in her pursuit of this fairytale outcome. Along the way she has damaged Barack Obama by using Republican like tactics, saying such things as John McCain is more qualified to be President.

This article is correct - for along time the math has not been there for Hillary Clinton. However as usual the Democrats (Superdelegates) have not shown any political backbone, waiting on the sidelines too timid to cross the Clintons. The TV pundits have keep this thing going because they are enjoying the ratings and drama. I love how their spin keeps changing. First Clinton needed to win PA by doubledigits, then it was 10% that's doubledigits, then it was really 9% but that beat most of the projected 8% so it's still a big win.

Please !!! I have looked at the math. Basically Hillary Clinton needs to win ALL future contests by an average of 70%. The only other way for her to win is for the Superdelegates to override the votes & give it to her. After the 2000 election I don't see that happening and if it does I don't know how she can win the general.

What Hillary Clinton needs to be doing now is deciding how she can undo the harm she has caused & get behind Barack Obama. Otherwise John McCain may be elected & continue Bush's horrible policies. That would be so sad for our nation and for all our soldiers in Iraq.

Re: Obama Is Not Electable
by Miande
He's not electable, but he is trouncing McCain and Hillary in the latest polls? perhaps the best thing Obama will do for his country is to force unreconstructed white bigots to understand (at last) and they are done for.
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