What possible excuse do you diehard Bush supporters offer for his refusal to allow his aides to testify publically and under OATH?

He says, sure you can talk to them in private, behind closed doors, and NOT under oath.

What this tells me is that there IS something to hide. He does not want what they have to say, even if they safely (not udner oath after all) LIE even then, to be heard by the American people.

These are NOT matters of national security - why shouldn't these public servants speak on the record in front of Americans??

Bush is denying democrats the ability of making these investigations a media circus.

Personally, I thing Bush should just tell democrats to go to Hell. I would love to see how that played in the media.

Ah, yes, the latest catchphrase/excuse to emanate from the mouths of the Bush apologists. Honest to GOD, do you people seriously expect American's have such short lived memories as to not recall the shock and awe of a media circus concerning a certain blue dress?

And all that historical precedent notwithstanding, just to get you over the inevitable "quid pro quo" rebuttal, why NOT insist that PUBLIC servants be made to speak in public, under OATH, to the American people?

Lame, Terrortoon, lame, indeed.

They have something really bad to hide. They don't want to speak under oath, cuz they'll have to lie to protect...who? And if they lie and someone actually finds out the TRUTH, then somebody else will have to go to jail (and have sentence commuted, of course), pay fines, be disgraced, etc.

Yep. They are hiding something really big here.

with the American public and since he no longer has anything to lose, it's pointless and childish...just like your response.

Democrats, ever since the Libby incident, have discovered a new and interesting way of attacking republicans. Public depositions under oath.

They have been using this technique to trip up republicans as a way of making them seem less credible.

Bush, in a rare bit of wisdom, has foiled this democrat tactic by not allowing public depositions. As you and many Fraybot party loyalists are proving, this pisses democrats off to no end.

These constant and fruitless investigations are getting more acknowledgement than they deserve. I would applaud Bush just telling Leahy to go "F*ck Himself"

And if you don't want a rebuttal, don't post like an ass.

Democrats really have to get out of "destroy the other side" mode and get something done.

Bush doesn't have to play these democrat games, and I applaud him for not allowing democrats to make their mock investigations and media circus.

Good for Bush.

You can whine about it all you want, Fraylib, but you're just putting a smile on my face seeing how indignant this makes you.

Poor baby. :(

Democrats, ever since the Libby incident, have discovered a new and interesting way of attacking republicans. Public depositions under oath.

Really! Asking Clinton about a blowjob in a civil case and then blowing it all out of proportion ring any bells with you?

They have been using this technique to trip up republicans as a way of making them seem less credible.

LESS CREDIBLE? They did that to themselves long before the Democrats WON the majority because the Republican LACK of credibility.

"These constant and fruitless investigations" are called oversight...something that has sadly been lacking for the last 6 years.

There's an election every 2 years.

The Democrats have been working mightily to accomplish something THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOWED THEY WANTED IN '06. Bush and the remaining rubber stamps have thus far thwarted THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

I do. I watched the Watergate proceedings on TV in 1973 (was in a Navy town in Maryland with my husband who was working on test planes at the naval air station in Lexington Park, couldn't get a govt. job in a town of ONLY govt jobs, since Nixon had frozen all civil service hiring).

Fishing expedition that, huh? I am certain you would have preferred all THAT had never seen the light of day. Talk about a "media circus"...and one that brought down a crook of a president in the process. Methinks that is exactly what BushCo fears will happen now.

Look, you can rebut all you like, but you cannot remotely defend the hypocrisy of what you've said.

I am always thrilled when I see you join a thread of mine, because I know you will inject common sense.

amfh wrote the following post at 07-09-2007 12:26 PM:

Look, you can rebut all you like, but you cannot remotely defend the hypocrisy of what you've said.

You are talking about Terrortoon here, he can remotely or otherwise defend anything.

Bush might as well tell the dems to "go to hell", he has already told the American people to "go fuck yourselves". It will play well in the '08 elections when the dems sweep both houses of Congress and the WH and the republicons go back to being the unimportant party they were.

Your hypocricy is showing again.

We both know damm well that if the Democrats "get something done" you will be ranting and raving about that too.

The only thing that keeps Democrats from "getting something done" is 10 GOP Senators who can shut off debate.

Otherwise, a lot would have been done,

And come this September, when the war in Iraq looks pretty much as it did last year, and tne year before, the GOP will have no reason and no advantage to continue to pretend that Bush's war is anything but the disaster that the rest of the world knows it is.

It really pisses you off doesn't it that the dems are taking a page out of the neocon playbook and making the administration lackeys actually swear to tell the truth. I laugh at how you neocons are bitching and moaning about how unfair the dems are being, when all during the Clinton administration, Newt, Tom, and the rest of those neocon assholes, used the exact same tactics.

'08 is around the corner and afterwards the repugs will be the party of little or no consequence. Enjoy the next 17 months, that's all you have left.

The investigations are hardly fruitless.

Since January, we've all learned that the White House and the Justice Department have engaged in a well planned and systematic program to install US attorneys for the specific purpose of taking actions that will either benefit specific Republican candidates in elections, delay investigations or prosecutions of prominent Republican figures, and bring nuisance prosecutions timed for their usefulness to the right wing propoganda machine on the eve of an election.

The only thing that the investigations haven't uncovered so far is just exactly who gave the orders.

We've all see one senior (or really rather junior given her age and lack of real experience) cop a plea and then admit to wholesale violations of the law.

We will shortly see another one exposed after admitting that he was instructed to do thing that were patent violations of Justice Department guidelines and probably illegal to boot.

All that remains is to get Rove, Gonzales and a couple of others on the stand, and this Adminstration is finished.

And they know it.

The broad claim of executive privilage that this President is trying to assert will probably not hold up in court.

Bush's hope is that he can run the clock out, before Rove and Cheney are frog marched out of the building.