All men are pigs. I know that and accept it. Lets move on.

After being as ineffectual as everyone else in the Senate against the insanity of the current administration, even abetting that insanity at times, she wants to claim her place using very much the same machine (give or take a few key players) as her husband did in '92. And I believe now, as I believed then, that she was a major part in Clinton I's success and is now a major part of Clinton II's problems.

For eight years, I followed the Clinton Machine power through Washington, taking the country up current to prosperity and a better life for all. I watched with much interest her campaign for Senate and felt that she would soon would be president.

Now that opportunity has come and rather than run above the smears and dirty politics, she is leading the way in character attacks and whispering campaigns taken directly from the Rove handbook (Not to say that Carville's playbook was any better morally speaking - I like the crazy bastard precisely because he is crazy. Rove isn't crazy, he's amoral). Where the Clinton machine has had opportunity to speak issue, they take process. It is taking on the worse kind of pandering, this machine that sixteen years ago, dealt with process questions expertly as they got the country behind them. Now, though, this very same questions are weighing heavy about her neck and the machine, now old and creaky, don't hear the gears stripping as they try to catch.

So, I am not voting for Hillary Clinton. Not because of her sex or that she reminds me of my mom. I am not voting for Hillary Clinton because she DOES NOT remind me of Hillary Clinton; she reminds me of John McCain (who kind of reminds me of my dad) and George Bush (who kind of reminds me Lennie from OF MICE AND MEN).

Exactly. Thanks for your excellent post.

Aside re: Carville...did you see Edwards on Colbert last night saying he didn't want to endorse Obama because he didn't want Carville to bite him? Funny stuff.

I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton, but it isn't based on gender.

It's based on class. She has lots of money and power, always has had it. Her parents had quite a bit of money too. In that respect, I find it hard to truly imagine that she does know how I feel, or what will work for most of this country.

Sure it's pretty easy to feel someone else's extreme pain. The lack of insurance that kills. Losing a loved one in a war. The crushing defeat of missing the golden opportunity because of finances. But those are movie moments, novel moments, dramatic moments. We can all feel them. They touch the soul and make us angry or sad.

But what about the real day to day, wearing-you-down, and making-you-tired problems that most Americans have.

The barely making it. The choice of pay the bills on time, or buy your kid's best friend a birthday present? The putting off the oil change for another 2 weeks that you know is destroying the car, but with the price of gas what can you do. The not eating as well as you should because healthy food is expensive. The never being able to really save for retirement. The defeated feeling as if you're sentencing your kid to a life of near-success by giving up the dream of paying for your kid's college.

The wishing you could someday take a day off work and do something fun, but knowing you can't. It'll screw up the house payment.And even if you took the day off,you wouldn't have the money to do anything anyway. The million and one household projects you just can't ever seem to scrape the money up to do until whatever it is finally completely breaks down or gives up, and then it has to be on the credit card.

I'm not whining about those problems, they're just life I suppose. But with the prices of everything growing like weeds, and wages flat or going down it gets a little worse every year.Most of America is treading water, getting nowhere, and there's a wave coming.

I really think we need a president who has pumped their own gas, and freaked out about the price. I think we need a president that has had to juggle a house payment and the kid's birthday party. Because these days, that's what it's like being "middle class".

None of the candidates is doing that now, they're all rich. But at least Obama HAS DONE IT BEFORE. Sure he's made good, real good. But he wasn't always rich. His parents weren't rich. His wife's parents weren't rich.

You can't honestly say that about Hillary Rodham Clinton. And you can't say it about John McCain and his admiral father and grandfather and heiress wife either. I'm not saying that they are bad people, just that truly, they're not like me, they never have been.

Why is it, that if a man puts on a dress, women laugh at him and have no respect for him; if a women puts on combat fatigues or a football jersey, nobody laughs? It is the female race fighting itself that has put males where they are today. Not that I'm complaining, you understand. Have at it, women! I'll have another coffee.

pigbodine:

All men are pigs. I know that and accept it. Lets move on. ).

What an elitist, condescending view of half the population! Who will rescue you from a burning building, die on the job, building a bridge for you to drive on, or die in a battle protecting your rights? Over 90% of the time, it will be a MAN. We constantly hear about our "men and women in uniform," but out of the thousands killed in Iraq, how many were female? Answer: about 100. I don't agree with this war, and don't want to denigrate the sacrifices of the women who died, but I get sick and tired of hearing feminists berate men and support legislation that take away our basic rights. Did you know there's a statue in Washington DC, built by surviving female Titanic survivors, commemorating the men who gave up their liferaft seats so the women could live? Screw you and all the spoiled, male-bashing, screeching, feminist shrews.

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I was glad to see all your recent comments.

Perhaps like you, I enter Fray to relieve boredom and engage in rational (and irrational) combat.

The "below" theme I got very clearly. Reminds me of your probable past incarnation named Tartarus, but he had lousy spelling usually.

Anyway, if you are Mel, may I offer you congratulations on all the recent creative enterprises as well as an understanding of the bad press events, which arise even in me at low times.

Here, I don't really "get" this "women-in-the-world" topic, but I'm into stripper-types and as such I'm kind of susceptible to the allure of such creatures but scornful of them too. Maybe that's it -- getting pissed about my weaknesses.

I hope he sees it.

And a suggestion:

See a flick (XXX) with Britney Skye or Magdalena Witch -- or get the real thing (if junkie, be very careful).