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12 reasons 'bitter' is bad for Obama
by Fierry Persuit

"The Obama campaign contends that coverage of the San Francisco remarks is overheated and distorted. One aide said that “any logical analysis” would make it obvious that the brouhaha will not “change the pledged delegate count” — the key to the Democratic presidential nomination.

In fact, this is a potential turning point for Obama’s campaign — an episode that could be even more damaging than the attention to remarks by his minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, since this time the controversial words came out of his own mouth.

Here are a dozen reasons why:

1. It lets Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) off the mat at a time when even some of her top supporters had begun to despair about her prospects. Clinton hit back hard on the campaign trail Saturday. And her campaign held a conference call where former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, a Pittsburgh native, described Obama’s remarks as “condescending and disappointing” and “undercutting his message of hope.”

2. If you are going to say something that makes you sound like a clueless liberal, don’t say it in San Francisco. Obama’s views might have been received very differently if he had expressed them in public to Pennsylvania voters, saying he understood and could alleviate their frustrations.

3. Some people actually use guns to hunt — not to compensate for a salary that’s less than a U.S. senator’s."

Yahoo/POLITICO

........The Full Article

This one probably won't go away anytime soon.It'll be interesting to see if his media will abandon him.

Re: 12 reasons 'bitter' is bad for Obama
by MaryAnne
Better be careful Feirry.The Obama supporters are getting mighty heated on the boards.:o)
Re: I'd say heated describes Democrats in general...
by MWG

DNC likes to spin they have 2 great candidates, seems Democrats are having to grit their teeth to find one they can stomach.

On the other hand, life is pretty good for us McCain supporters.

Re: 12 reasons 'bitter' is bad for Obama
by Fierry Persuit

They don't scare me.....They need to learn that when you throw shit,it might come back and hit you square in the face!

Well,it's a lovely day...I think I might do some hunting later on!.;)

Re: McCain supporters?,as in pall bearers?
by Fierry Persuit

;)

Re: 12 reasons 'bitter' is bad for Obama
by MaryAnne
Fierry Persuit:

They don't scare me.....They need to learn that when you throw shit,it might come back and hit you square in the face!

Well,it's a lovely day...I think I might do some hunting later on!.;)


Wait until I get my orange vest,I will go with you! Gotta git out the old shotgun. Ain't been fired in nigh on 30 years!

Uh,friends...it's not hunting season...anywhere.
by MasterJay
I know it was meant as a joke...but really....it's not hunting season...unless things have drastically changed somewhere.
LLL Hypocracy is entertaining.
by SmartAss

Clinton said almost the same thing when he was running for President.

"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death."

HaHaHaHa

If it is "bitter" to confront America's problems
by MasterJay

with eloquence and empathy,instead of the empty promises we have heard from the last two administrations saying"We're going to rebuild,we're going to bring your jobs back"...and no one did...then I guess we have a different definition of bitter.

I heard a man speaking with the honesty,candor and intelligence I haven't heard since 1968...if you take anything out of context it can be twisted and contorted...I've been guilty of that myself.

...I had purposedly been trying to not take a head to head position on these things for a while,but this is so ridiculous,I'm sorry but it deserves hard scrutiny.

I think Senator Obama nails an issue confronting America with eloquence and empathy...rather than listen to out of context pandering,read the comment,which includes his words,watch the video's where Hillary's response is negated by the journalist on CNN and then watch the video of the actual explanation...give it a try,objectivity is an interesting thing,it sometimes leads to knowledge...while I admit I'm an Obama supporter,these types of words are why I switched as MaryAnne knows from HRC to Obama after the candidate both she and I supported dropped out,Edwards...give them a try.

Obama: No Surprise That Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians Turn Bitter

link to Full article with speech video...

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Link to Hillary piece on CNN "people aren't bitter" :

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Obama Responds to McCain and Clinton attacks in Terre Haute

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Just because Hillary and McCain say...everything in Pennsylvania is "sunshine lolipops and roses" doesn't mean it is...as I've pointed out before,before I committed to Obama after repeated trips to Indiana,Kentucky and Pennsylvania...the midwest and the East are dead zones economically.

Listen,read...then objectively decide who's being honest about change.

It's a lot about being a Democrat...a real Democrat...this is the Democratic Party I was raised on and believe in....

"And as long as America must choose, that long
will there be a need and a place for the Democratic
Party. We Democrats can run on our record but
we cannot rest on it. We will win if we continue
to take the initiative and if we carry the message
of hope and action throughout the country.
Alexander Smith once said, 'A man doesn't plant
a tree for himself. He plants it for posterity.
' Let us continue to plant, and our children shall
reap the harvest. That is our destiny as Democrats."

RFK

Re: 12 reasons 'bitter' is bad for Obama
by Fierry Persuit

Let's go to church first!.......then we'll er venture into the woods ok?

If you see any illegal immigrants along the way just shoot

Re: Uh,friends...it's not hunting season...anywhere.
by Fierry Persuit

You may be right....I'm rather "bitter" about that!

Re: Being a hunter myself,I used to keep track...
by MasterJay
don't remember anything being legal to shoot during mating season...
Re: If it is "bitter" to confront America's problems
by Fierry Persuit

Yah!..Bill Clinton's administration was a doggone failure!

The creation of millions of jobs and surpluses are detrimental.

You just like your candidate...what's all this about "lollipops" and shit?..

I wonder if people in those areas voted for Bush?----BTW you sound a little bitter.

NEARLY EVERYBODY PROSPERED DURING BILL'S TENURE!!!!!.......and that's a fact!

Re: Being a hunter myself,I used to keep track...
by Fierry Persuit
Use a condom!
Dave I didn't say it was a "failure" in general
by MasterJay

obviously it was far better than the current one,but even he didn't bring the jobs back...he made China a Most Favored Nation trade wise which opened the door that Bush ran through with Cheney and Haliburton pushing him along.

The "steel belt" states have been listening to politicians promises for years...and nothing has happened to bring back that prosperity.

Even Hillary admitted she fell far short on the jobs she promised New York,and I'm sure she sincerely ment it when she promised them...then she got smacked in the face with Bush giving tax breaks to companies who took their manufactoring overseas....it wasn't her fault....it was the reality of Bush having a rubber stamp Congress.

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