Every day we receive letters from different charities and more phone calls , thanks for called id I don't have to feel bad. We can't help every charity, I think most of the money donated is used to operate the charity and not help. Lately I have donated money to local charities where you can tell they use the money to help mostly birth defects in children. The numerous calls every day just tend to make me mad and And I don't like to be that person. I know they are just doing there job and I feel bad for them. So that is my opinion.

I support some charities but I never ask others to support them because I do. Others do not have the right to ask you to use their conscience in place of your own.

But you won't buy Boy Scout cookies because they won't send little boys off on overnight camping trips with known homosexuals? Why do I doubt that this woman (?) has little boys? Would she send her little girls off with an avowed straight man who was not a relative, overnight?

IrishColleen:

Would she send her little girls off with an avowed straight man who was not a relative, overnight?

Would you let your daughter sleep over a friend's house if that friend had a straight father who would be there? As a presumably straight woman, are you interested in having sex with little boys?

The reality is that most children who are molested are molested by family members or close family friends. The stranger molestation is rare.

IrishColleen:

But you won't buy Boy Scout cookies because they won't send little boys off on overnight camping trips with known homosexuals? Why do I doubt that this woman (?) has little boys?

Only the girl scouts sell cookies.... What is the risk if you send a boy with a bunch of other boys and at least two adults into the woods if one of the adults is gay? How many times have you read a story about an openly gay man having sex with a boy? Or are you worried that if one of the boys is gay they may experiment?

The term "known homosexual" makes it sound like it's a crime to be gay, or that it's been "found out" and is something to be hidden.

Not to mention all the unknown (to you) homosexuals that are in contact with children all the time without incident: gym teachers, swim coaches, librarians, cafeteria workers... it's blatantly discriminatory and, while they have the choice to enforce such discrimination in their club, people also have the choice to sign their kids up to an organization that will expel any member alleged to be gay, and I certainly have the choice of supporting that group in any way.

What does that kind of discrimination do to the 12 year old who's started having homosexual feelings? To know that if he talked about it and showed honesty in doing so (that's a badge, right?) that he would be kicked out of the club doesn't send a tolerant or positive message to kids. The scouts need to come into the 21st century already.

Yes, I'd probably let my child spend the night with a friend if the mother were a strong presence in the home. Women are less likely to let anything wrong happen. Argue if you like but I believe that is true. I don't have a boy in the Scouts but I thought the letter said she refused to buy cookies from a boy scout. Did I misread?

In the paper I read about two homosexual men who were given a foster child. It came out and he was regularly abused and molested. The child said they called him their candy. I would not put a child in a group of either homosexuals or lesbians. Neither group has a right to a clear shot at children.

Charties, Smarties. Do you have Smarties in the States ?

IrishColleen:

Yes, I'd probably let my child spend the night with a friend if the mother were a strong presence in the home.

So if your daughter's best friend was being raised by her single dad, no sleep overs?

IrishColleen:

Women are less likely to let anything wrong happen.

You can't seriously believe this. Most children are molested by men who claim to be straight and who happen to be married. Hell, I grew up with a girl whose step dad was having sex with her. Her mom simply didn't believe it because this girl was such a *difficult* child.

IrishColleen:

In the paper I read about two homosexual men who were given a foster child. It came out and he was regularly abused and molested.

So you're basing your opinion on a single incident that you read about in the paper? Seriously? How many children in the foster care system are abused by their straight foster parents all the time? The number is quite high. The problem is that the plural of ancedote is not evidence.

IrishColleen:

I would not put a child in a group of either homosexuals or lesbians. Neither group has a right to a clear shot at children.

Neither group wants a clear shot at children. Gay men are as likely to molest as straight men (and the same is true for lesbians). Given the number of unwanted children it is simply a crime to not let them go to a gay couple purely based on sexuality.

Deciding you can "tell" who is going to molest your children by their defined traits actually will put blinders on you when it comes to the real molesters.

How exactly would you know if the mom of your daughter's friend is a "stong woman"???? From what you have seen how she is in public? How exactly do you know how she is behind closed doors?

Almost daily we hear about the mom's boyfriend killing the kid. Almost daily we hear about the mom's boyfriend molested the kids. Almost daily we hear about a mom that stood by & let her boyfriend/husband use, abuse & kill kids, because she loved him/needed his money for support/didn't believe the kid. Daily we hear about the moms that choose anything & everything over the safety & well being of their own kids.

Hi Irish Colleen. Would you cite your source? What newspaper are you referring to? What were the names of the alleged perps? I'd like to investigate this story. Right now it just sounds like homophobic innuendo. Would you be so kind as to supply the facts requested above? Thanks!

Sure, it was in the Daily Oklahoman in OKC. I don't recall the exact date but I assume it is in the archives.

I misread the letter. It said Boy Scout goods, not cookies. I feel people are free to refuse to buy any

goods or refuse contributions to any group they wish.

It is curious that anyone would think that you can't tell how strong a presence a woman is in her home. My parents never let me stay over at a friend's house until they had met the parents. There are woman who care more about having a man, any man, around than the well being of their children. It is pitiful that some are like that.

So, homosexual men do not molest little boys? Have we studies on this? Do poll takers knock on doors and ask if they molest children? No doubt they answer honestly if they do. It seems that some people will support anything if it is pushed enough and repeated enough. Why would children be encouraged to discuss sex at a club meeting anyway? Why are we rushing children into thoughts of sex?

Exactly how many studies have been done to know the ratio of child molestation by homosexual men as opposed to straight men? Who sponsored these studies? Why has it become wrong for people to form groups of people with whom they want to spend time? Have we reached the point where we are going to be refused the right to choose our friends and associates? I have read about 'lavender" youth camps for those whose parents are homosexual or children who are. Are those all right? Is it only non homosexuals who are not allowed to choose their companions? Why is it wrong for a club such as The Boy Scouts to have an organization for like minded individuals? Is there anything that people will not support if they hear it repeated often enough? Must the lavender camps admit straight children from traditional families? If so, are these children allowed to promote their more traditional life style or must they be silent and offend no one?